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The Obama “Forged Birth Certificate” Myth Is Busted
The Strata-Sphere ^ | 7/6/08 | AJ Strata

Posted on 07/06/2008 9:57:03 PM PDT by stravinskyrules

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To: stravinskyrules
(1) a BHO certificate Daily Kos posted initially [image loaded here], which Kos says he obtained electronically from the Obama campaign [image here], (2) the version of the certificate on the Obama website,

And you Strata believe KOS? It was KOS who somehow got hold of the birth certificate first and then supplied it to the Obama campaign.

Then how come the Obama campaign birth certificate never showed the "embossed seal" when the Edge-Detect filter is applied and the KOS Obama birth certificate does?

In my analysis I find the Kos version to be the highest quality image file of the original document, produced in Jun of 2007 by the state of Hawaii. I find the Obama campaign site version to be a lower quality version of the original, probably because someone decided to shrink the file size to optimize download size for the web.

Again incorrect. The KOS version is of highest quality because the Obama campaign website removed their larger version of it. The Obama people realized that when their version did not have that hidden seal and tell tale signs of a signature they shrunk it to avoid scrutiny and deleted the link to the higher quality version. Didn't KOS tell you that he got it from the Obama campaign - hmmmmm? The two birth certificates should be the same. To have the image fit the webpage is a lame excuse.

21 posted on 07/06/2008 10:55:11 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: stravinskyrules; Admin Moderator

You’re no Buckhead, nice try though. Welcome to Free Republic.


22 posted on 07/06/2008 10:57:20 PM PDT by smithone
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To: Lancey Howard
She thinks she runs it, but ain't even close


23 posted on 07/06/2008 10:58:09 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: null and void
Exactly.

We still don't know if Obama's CoLB was actually accepted by the Registrar's office and issued an actual certification number (thus validating it).

We need to ascertain once and for all that it was formally accepted and issued a C.N..

All they've really done here is punctuate a strawman.

24 posted on 07/06/2008 10:59:12 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Red Steel

Great analysis.


25 posted on 07/06/2008 11:01:26 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Red Steel

It’s a false argument meant to show the VRWC. That’s all.


26 posted on 07/06/2008 11:03:57 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Red Steel
With well over a million different hits on Google for Obama's birth certificate, I think that they trying to figure out ways to nip this thing in bud.

Too much scrutiny by too many different parties.

27 posted on 07/06/2008 11:06:19 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: editor-surveyor; ETL; Calpernia; Polarik; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head; pissant; SE Mom; devolve; ...

Click Bogus Hussein Obama

28 posted on 07/06/2008 11:14:49 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Cyropaedia

Yes, yes. And Obama can easily clear this up if he wants to.


29 posted on 07/06/2008 11:16:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: stravinskyrules
I am only peripherally aware of the aspects of this. It is another Kerry-DoD-documents monkey business thing or a kind of Dan Rather phony documents caper.

It's probably not that comparable but I like reminding everyone of this as ofter as the chance arises.

The "I lied to my diary" sworn statement of Joshua L. Steiner, the Clinton Treasury Secretary's chief of staff. It was part of the sham (IMO) Congressional "hearings" of the Clinton era. This one was Whitewater.

I will never forget the look on Democrat of Maryland Senator Paul Sarbanes' face as Mr. Steiner testified that an entry in his diary confirming a fact or two was indeed a lie. He had lied to his diary.

Incredulous stare is not descriptive enough, no where near descriptive enough. Not even close. But good Democrats move on and that's what Senator Sarbanes did.

So I guess it's germane in that sense. If the certificate is indeed phony good Democrats will just "move on."

30 posted on 07/06/2008 11:20:56 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: stravinskyrules

The lack of an embossed state seal is suspicious, in my opinion. This is not an element which, if present, might or might not show depending on various conditions of reproduction—an embossing deforms and distorts the paper and any image on the paper on both sides, and it should be clearly visible on the face of the Obama certificate.


31 posted on 07/06/2008 11:27:46 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: stravinskyrules; All

THIS is going to be America's next First Couple? They look more like Bonnie and Clyde!

32 posted on 07/06/2008 11:32:29 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: Red Steel

Yea. Give a copy to ABC and have them scan both sides. Easy. Every day that this goes on.. one has to wonder why? That is what drives all of the speculation. This could be settled for a few dollars and in a few moments. This is truly lame but 100% Obama’s fault.


33 posted on 07/06/2008 11:34:49 PM PDT by dalight
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To: smithone
You’re no Buckhead, debnice try though.

In my short stint here on FR, I've come to realize that an occasional slab of red meat tossed into the forum elicits some great responses and advances the debate.....or simply creates a chaotic "Running of the Bulls" effect.

In either case, an enjoyable result.

34 posted on 07/06/2008 11:38:09 PM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: Cyropaedia
Here a good one from Strata:

...and a much firmer date and seal stamp impression [Decostas BC] (someone was clearly getting some aggressions out that day!).

To explain away why it takes some fancy imaging software to see the KOS birth certificate, he says it's normal not to see the embossed seal unless someone squeezes or presses the stamping seal with great force! All the notarizers that I've seen must have been "clearly getting some aggressions out"!

35 posted on 07/06/2008 11:38:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

...to see the KOS birth certificate [seal]...


36 posted on 07/06/2008 11:41:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: KarlInOhio
I can't recall ever seeing antialiasing in a laser printed document. Since even the cheapest laser printer is going to be in the 600 dpi range, to be able to see it you you need a scanned image at least twice that resolution or in the range of 15,000 pixels per side.

Just for fun, I scanned several print samples at 1200 dpi. It turns out that laser-printed text looks pretty good at high magnification. Here they are:


HP Laser Printer


Epson Ink Jet Printer


Bureau of Engraving and Printing

All three samples look pretty crisp to the naked eye. I was surprised at the poor quality of the ink jet output.

37 posted on 07/06/2008 11:47:41 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
All three samples look pretty crisp to the naked eye. I was surprised at the poor quality of the ink jet output.

The processes that use ink experience some amount of bleed due to capillary action whereas the Laser Printer uses an electrostatic process to cause the toner particles to stick to the paper and this is fused (melted) to the paper with heat.

38 posted on 07/06/2008 11:59:51 PM PDT by dalight
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39 posted on 07/07/2008 12:08:07 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Free Lazamataz! Free Lazamataz! Free Lazamataz!)
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To: cynwoody
Frankly, this is why Stata's analysis is so off of the mark because he has focused on the letters rather than the anti-fraud markings behind them. The zone of disturbance around the text in all of these images is huge.

Anti-aliasing reflects what is printed but not what is not printed such that you wouldn't see a band of disturbance extending well beyond the letters in the background image because the background image is green on white vs the black on white of the lettering. Any anti-aliasing effects in the background would be uniform across the whole image. This is clearly not the case.

This is all well documented in Polarik's posts at Townhall.com

Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?

I don't see anything in Strata's commentary that deals with this in any substantial way.

40 posted on 07/07/2008 12:11:29 AM PDT by dalight
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