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1 posted on 07/04/2008 12:24:02 PM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

No surprise. Self-defense is all but illegal in the UK.


2 posted on 07/04/2008 12:25:34 PM PDT by KingSnorky
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To: Republicain

At least there’s no such thing as a drive-by stabbing or beating.


3 posted on 07/04/2008 12:25:37 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Republicain

My brain is incapable of understanding a protest in which people demand less freedom . Maybe they should throw their own knives into the harbor or something .


7 posted on 07/04/2008 12:30:51 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Republicain

Next we will be hearing about fork crime, and then, spoon crime.


8 posted on 07/04/2008 12:33:43 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Republicain
Government can't stop it. The only thing that can is the perpetrators becoming so afraid of citizen retaliation that they trim their sails. It would take no more than four, maybe five well-publicized and accurate head shots by armed citizens over a period of a week or so. A small price to pay when set against the number of dead and wounded piling up due to continuing street violence.

A couple of generations ago, this didn't have to be patiently explained to willfully blind, university-indoctrinated public servants - everybody, regardless of political affiliation, knew how the math worked.

10 posted on 07/04/2008 12:42:01 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Republicain; zencat

They'll probably just outlaw knives, edged weapons, and other sharp object. Youthful offenders will be put into a diversion program of picking up rocks and small pebbles making them unavailable for unlawful purposes.


12 posted on 07/04/2008 12:43:04 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Republicain

When knives are outlawed only outlaws will have knives.


16 posted on 07/04/2008 12:57:58 PM PDT by cquiggy
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Well, they obviously need to ban knives. They are so violent.

17 posted on 07/04/2008 12:58:33 PM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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“feral” youths and gangs loitering the streets – often drunk on cheap alcohol – make many people too afraid to go for a walk on a summer evening.

In America we have our share of urban violence but it is generally concentrated in areas besieged by poverty and large minority populations, and much of this violence occurs while participating in other criminal activity. There's something entirely different going on in Britain. "Yobs", "Chavs", "ASBOs" or whatever they are called, are drunken, largely white youths who have taken to beating people to death for sport, often with little reason or provocation at all.

18 posted on 07/04/2008 1:01:42 PM PDT by Drew68
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Political correctness and bureaucratic paperwork has meant that officers go for soft targets...

Right. It's the way cowardly and self centered bureaucracies operate. Go for the "low hanging fruit" rather than offend the offenders.

19 posted on 07/04/2008 1:02:03 PM PDT by Gritty (Europe's dwindling manpower and will are a one-way ticket on the Oblivion Express - Mark Steyn)
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To: Republicain

Wow. Good thing they got those guns off the street. /s


20 posted on 07/04/2008 1:04:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Republicain

Another article which conflates “Britain” with “London”.

I live in Birmingham UK and have never been worried. London however is like Detroit, New York, Babylon and Ancient Rome all at once.


21 posted on 07/04/2008 1:09:55 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Republicain; Joe Brower
This is how it works in a free country, where self-defense is not illegal. (Well, exluding a few states like NY and IL)

Gee, for some reason, these knife crimes are not so common in Florida, Texas etc.

24 posted on 07/04/2008 1:27:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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I wonder if you can carry a firearm in the U.K. if you cite Sharia law. Assuming you are a male with a beard whose toilet doesn’t face Mecca of course.


26 posted on 07/04/2008 1:31:58 PM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Republicain
And another.

Maybe if the punishment fit the crime it might act as a deterrent, it's not the knives, it's the mindset that this behaviour is somehow "cool" that's the problem.

I remember when a single murder there was real front page news, how standards have fallen now.

29 posted on 07/04/2008 2:10:17 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Republicain

Looks like a prime time to set up a chain mail shop!


32 posted on 07/04/2008 2:52:50 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomber Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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The primary, some say only, role of government is to protect people from violence. Since the police can not be everywhere, the historical meaning of protection is that the government will apprehend and severely punish violent people. The government of lesser britain has taken on so many ancillary roles, that it can no longer perform its primary duty. Their government has failed completely.


34 posted on 07/04/2008 3:15:20 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a trace gas necessary for life on earth.)
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“Violent crime has doubled since Labour came to power a decade ago.”

According to liberals the only causes of crime are “poverty” and/or “demographics.” Rudy Giuliani became mayor, was tough on crime, and the murder rate fell dramatically. “Demographics” they say - without offering any specifics. Liberals claim that crime can not be deterred. Liberal thinking on this matter is consistent with their thinking in general: incentives don’t matter. Of course, they are wrong. Incentives affect human behavior greatly.


35 posted on 07/04/2008 3:23:40 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a trace gas necessary for life on earth.)
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Stabbings and assault in Britain are now common, if not daily occurrences; at night city centers are generally regarded as no-go areas; “feral” youths and gangs loitering the streets – often drunk on cheap alcohol – make many people too afraid to go for a walk on a summer evening.

Sounds like they used "A Clockwork Orange" as a blueprint instead of a warning.

"Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well."

48 posted on 07/06/2008 11:48:46 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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