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Question is? Who changed? McCain? Or "Conservatives"? (some of them at least)

Well, it is certain that McCain hasn't changed LOL.

As for the conservatives? They probably never were. These people were really just die hard republicans who care about nothing but winning.

They are extra nasty this time because they see conservatives standing in the way of a win.

The real question is, what are they giving up and what direction do they want to see this country move?

Obama may be bad, but I can honestly say after 4 years of him people really will know what hope and change means.

I am kind of sad because so many nice people are being driven right out of here. Some of these people are so full of information and always post respectfully. It is repulsive to see them get treated like dirt for the likes of a backstabbing anti sovereignty person like McCain. He isn't even worth it. The only people that deserve Obama are the folks we are talking about. This thread is a shameful embarrassment.

The real question is, what are they giving up and what direction do they want to see this country move?

I don't think they know what direction they want the country to move, because under Bush, the country moved left (more government power, more government control, a larger government, etc.) and I would expect no less under McCain (although Obama will win). A few began to realize that "compassionate conservative" was code for "liberal", especially when No Child Left Behind was pushed through (one of the biggest power grabs by the government of a local issue I've seen in the past 30 years).

That said, getting back on topic, those who were so quick to give McCain credit for this operation, simply because he was there, how would those people have felt if something good happened in Israel while Obama is visiting and the headline read "Israel reduces Iranian nuclear program to rubble (hurrah for Obama!)".

We would all be raising hell and paging admins, because Obama would have had nothing to do with it, much like McCain had nothing to do with this, other than Uribe wanting to give him a nice photo op to reward him for McCain's support of the Colombia Free Trade Agreement.