[af_vet_rr]

The real question is, what are they giving up and what direction do they want to see this country move?

I don't think they know what direction they want the country to move, because under Bush, the country moved left (more government power, more government control, a larger government, etc.) and I would expect no less under McCain (although Obama will win). A few began to realize that "compassionate conservative" was code for "liberal", especially when No Child Left Behind was pushed through (one of the biggest power grabs by the government of a local issue I've seen in the past 30 years).

That said, getting back on topic, those who were so quick to give McCain credit for this operation, simply because he was there, how would those people have felt if something good happened in Israel while Obama is visiting and the headline read "Israel reduces Iranian nuclear program to rubble (hurrah for Obama!)".

We would all be raising hell and paging admins, because Obama would have had nothing to do with it, much like McCain had nothing to do with this, other than Uribe wanting to give him a nice photo op to reward him for McCain's support of the Colombia Free Trade Agreement.

[dforest]

Excellent post. You and I are on the same page. There was another thread posted the same day without the extra addition of a lie. The add on was totally disingenuous and should have been flagged by the mods.

I will admit, I do not like McCain. If he had engineered this I would have given him some big applause.

I think he was in Columbia by plan at that time. I will say it was not McCain who started this thread, it was a cheerleader who has no scruples. I guess this person did not realize that this was not a wise thing to do.

The other side could use it to try to show that we are liars. Which the real conservatives are not.