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The Truth about ANWR
The Nav Log ^ | 6/28/08 | unknown

Posted on 06/28/2008 7:53:37 AM PDT by pabianice

Needs widest distribution to counter the lies of the utterly failed Pelosi-Reid Congress.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: anwr; drilling; energy; oil
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1 posted on 06/28/2008 7:53:37 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

MEGA BUMP!


2 posted on 06/28/2008 7:59:10 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: pabianice
Thanks for the link!! It's now on my Desktop to read later and pass around.

Dem ANWAR Energy

3 posted on 06/28/2008 7:59:48 AM PDT by musicman
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It would be far more effective and accurate if the comparison were titled Alaska to the continental US instead of ANWR to continental US since it is the entire state of Alaska superimposed on the US map, not just ANWR. Then, if that were followed up by a second comparison with just ANWR superimposed on the US map and finally, the portion of ANWR where the drilling would be done superimposed, the point would be well made.


4 posted on 06/28/2008 8:01:20 AM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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I keep hearing about how it will take 10 years to develop this. Somebody must have some plan that could be executed more quickly.

$5 a gallon gas is nothing. The country is going to go ballistic this winter with home heating oil. First fillups should come right before election time. ITS going kick people in the gut when they get that $1500 bill and this nonsense of not drilling will hopefully end.


5 posted on 06/28/2008 8:09:01 AM PDT by bluedressman
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To: pabianice
Pretty good writeup.

I've heard various predictions about how much oil would be obtained from ANWR. But no one seems to have a simple apples-to-apples figure. So let me ask:

1. How many million barrels would be obtained from the new ANWR field(s) during its useful lifetime? (total barrels)

2. How many million barrels per day are consumed by the US? (barrels per day)

It seems to me that these two questions ought to have fairly clear, straightforward answers.

Then we can divide #1 by #2 and get the number of days that the ANWR supply would provide oil if it were the only source; of course it's not, but one starts the computation by doing each source separately.

Reason I ask is that I've heard figures as low as "a couple of weeks". If so, it's a drop in the bucket, literally.

I would like to have some figures to counter that argument that it's not a large source.

Thanks in advance.

6 posted on 06/28/2008 8:21:49 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: pabianice

That is a great presentation.


7 posted on 06/28/2008 8:23:07 AM PDT by ikka
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To: dayglored

The thing is, there is oil there and lots of it, and it is not just about Anwr, it is about every known oil source in the US, including off shore oil deposits. We need to open them all up to drilling and open more land to exploration. There is no “alternative” energy source at this moment and there is likely not to be one for at least another 30 years. So do we sit around and not drive for 30 years or do we drill oil and use what we have until the alternatives are found? I vote for drilling and using. The way we stifle creativity in this country now I would be surprised if an “alternative”(a viable one) ever surfaces.


8 posted on 06/28/2008 8:32:06 AM PDT by calex59
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To: pabianice

Someone here at Free Republic had a link to Gull Island. Right around the corner of Anwr. Is that a hoax? 200 years of oil, capped and ready to go?


9 posted on 06/28/2008 8:32:37 AM PDT by sig229 (The loonie left "FLUNKED" human nature 101)
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To: dayglored

Our liberal, idiot, friends have made it ILLEGAL to take the measurments necessary to accurately project ANWR potential.


10 posted on 06/28/2008 8:35:51 AM PDT by G Larry (Fight B.O. with RIGHT GUARD! Vote McCain!)
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To: bluedressman; pabianice
> I keep hearing about how it will take 10 years to develop this. Somebody must have some plan that could be executed more quickly. $5 a gallon gas is nothing. The country is going to go ballistic this winter with home heating oil. First fillups should come right before election time. ITS going kick people in the gut when they get that $1500 bill and this nonsense of not drilling will hopefully end.

The figures I've seen so far (US Gov. EIA Analysis of Crude Oil Production in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge) show:

In other words, the effect of opening up ANWR *NOW* is that starting in 10 years, the price of crude drops between 50 cents and a buck-50, which would happen about 20 years from now. Recall, crude is presently well over $100 a barrel, so the reduction is approximately 1%.

So if the above figures are right, drilling in ANWR will drop the price of gas at the pump about a nickel, starting in 10 years, and not really having much effect until 20 years from now.

This is according to the government... I find it hard to believe everyone is wo worked up over a nickel in a decade or two. Anybody have reputable figures to counter this??

11 posted on 06/28/2008 8:41:44 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: pabianice

Big caribou bump


12 posted on 06/28/2008 8:44:22 AM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamofascist Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: calex59
> The thing is, there is oil there and lots of it, and it is not just about Anwr, it is about every known oil source in the US, including off shore oil deposits. We need to open them all up to drilling and open more land to exploration. There is no “alternative” energy source at this moment and there is likely not to be one for at least another 30 years. So do we sit around and not drive for 30 years or do we drill oil and use what we have until the alternatives are found? I vote for drilling and using. The way we stifle creativity in this country now I would be surprised if an “alternative”(a viable one) ever surfaces.

Absolutely! That's why I'm sorta confused by all the concentration on ANWR, which seems to me to be a rather small item on what SHOULD be a much larger agenda to expand drilling and developing.

It seems stupid and self-defeating to me to not get every resource we have into production.

Especially if new drilling sites do take a decade to start being productive. We're out of our minds to sit on our hands.

13 posted on 06/28/2008 8:44:59 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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The thing is, there is oil there and lots of it, and it is not just about Anwr, it is about every known oil source in the US, including off shore oil deposits. We need to open them all up to drilling and open more land to exploration. There is no “alternative” energy source at this moment and there is likely not to be one for at least another 30 years. So do we sit around and not drive for 30 years or do we drill oil and use what we have until the alternatives are found? I vote for drilling and using. The way we stifle creativity in this country now I would be surprised if an “alternative”(a viable one) ever surfaces.

Correct. It illustrates the principle of not being allowed to get to energy source in this country.

Coal, oil shale, building refineries and nuke plants...

14 posted on 06/28/2008 8:45:50 AM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: G Larry
> Our liberal, idiot, friends have made it ILLEGAL to take the measurments necessary to accurately project ANWR potential.

Seriously? Illegal? I didn't know that. How come?

No, lemme guess... if we take accurate figures, it'll be seen as getting the foot in the door to drilling, right?

Sheesh...

15 posted on 06/28/2008 8:47:08 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: bluedressman
nonsense of not drilling will hopefully end.

Go ahead and drill. It won't matter. Not a bit.

16 posted on 06/28/2008 8:48:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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>> nonsense of not drilling will hopefully end.

> Go ahead and drill. It won't matter. Not a bit.

What do you mean, it won't matter a bit?

17 posted on 06/28/2008 8:50:14 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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No one to vote for in Maine, and we’ll be one of the hardest hit states come this winter!! Our former Gov. King said a “catastrophe” was heading our way this winter, and, it is. Sen. Susan Collins just put out her 10 point energy plan-nothing about drilling!! Her opponent is Cong. Tom Allen. Some choice we have up here....


18 posted on 06/28/2008 8:52:44 AM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: dayglored

Cargo cult, drink the Kool-aid.


19 posted on 06/28/2008 8:54:40 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: pabianice

Great presentation, except for one thing.

The last page mentions the liberal wet-dream of having higher-priced
gasoline.

But the liberals are now gnashing their teeth:
They’ve now got the high-priced gasoline they wished for,
BUT...they didn’t get it in the way they wanted...
having 100% of the price increases being due to added tax to get the
financial heroin (other peoples money...which is taxes) the Dems in
Congress need to keep them in office.

But I guess the Dems must take some solace that a lot of the increases
in the price of a barrel of oil are going into the pockets of people
that want to kill the USA.
I’m sure that mekes the Dems proud...keeping that money out of the
hands of greedy Americans.


20 posted on 06/28/2008 8:57:41 AM PDT by VOA
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