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To: Will88
1) So far, there is zero evidence in any poll (national, state-by-state, electoral college, whatever) that Obama's "star" has been tarnished.

2) Clinton, while a Baby Boomer, was just one generation removed from his opponent. Obama is two generations removed from McCain---much bigger gap than Carter/Reagan.

I'm here in OH. I do think there will be significant "hillbilly" blue-collar voting for McCain (against Obama) but not nearly enough to overcome the liberal whites/white guilt. Every day I drive through Oakwood, a rich suburb that in 2004 was about 60/40 Kerry, but had some Bush support. Today, the only signs and bumper stickers you see are Obama. I live in a more southern suburb that is much wealthier (median, though not average) and much younger. Every day I see new Hummers with Obama signs. This election won't be pretty.

26 posted on 06/25/2008 11:04:09 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS

“A major problem is that the MSM, Newsweek, Bloomberg, CNN all have a poll a day showing The Messiah above ole John by 12-15 points nationally.”

The real point is that polls this far from the general election (and even primary votes) have been spectacularly inaccurate on many occasions. They mean little because so much can happen, positive and negative, for each candidate.

“Obama is two generations removed from McCain-—much bigger gap than Carter/Reagan.”

Not really, 72 and 47 is 25 years, just one generation, or slightly less with the average age of marriage these days around 26.

I think both candidates are so flawed that either could seriously damage his chances more than once between now and November. Just too early to draw any confident conclusions yet.


29 posted on 06/25/2008 11:14:42 AM PDT by Will88
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To: LS

Unless McQueeg gets possessed by the spirit of Ronaldus Magnus soon, Obama wins comfortably in November. The trend is for a party switch after 8 years, and there’s so much Bush hatred out there that Juan has to combat. Coupled with a slowing economy and high gas prices, this year could be an across-the-board bloodbath for the GOP.


54 posted on 06/25/2008 1:58:30 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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