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Faked certificate suggests that Obama may not be "natural born" US citizen(PROVEN FAKE!)
http://web.israelinsider.com ^ | June 24, 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 06/25/2008 7:58:32 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

It is now a certainty that the "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign as authentic is a photoshopped fake.

The image, purporting to come from the Hawaii Department of Health, has been the subject of intense skepticism in the blogosphere in the past two weeks. But now the senior spokesman of that Department has confirmed to Israel Insider what are the required features of a certified birth document -- features that Obama's purported "birth certificate" clearly lack.

The image became increasingly suspect with Israel Insider's revelation that variations of the certificate image were posted on the Photobucket image aggregation website -- including one listing the location of Obama's birth as Antarctica, one with the certificate supposedly issued by the government of North Korea, and another including a purported photo of baby Barack -- one of which has a "photo taken" time-stamp just two minutes before the article and accompanying image was posted on the left-wing Daily Kos blog.

That strongly suggests that Daily Kos obtained the image from Photobucket, not the State of Hawaii, the Obama family, or the Obama campaign. Photobucket is not generally known as a credible supplier of official vital records for any of the fifty states, and the liberties that other Photoshoppers took with the certificates confirms this.

Some of these oddities surfaced in Israel Insider's previous article on the subject, but new comparative documentary evidence presented below, and official verification obtained by Israel Insider from a senior Hawaiian official, provides the strongest confirmation yet.

An authentic Hawaiian birth certificate for another Hawaiian individual has since surfaced which, using the same official form as the presumptive Obama certificate, includes an embossed official seal and an authoritative signature, coming through from the back. Obama's alleged certificate lacks those features, and the certificate number referencing the birth year has been blacked out, making it untraceable.

Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."

Compare the top image presented by his campaign as evidence of Obama's 1961 birth and the other certifying the birth of one Patricia Decosta.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

http://www.valeehill.net/genealogy/documents/doc_decosta_pat_birth.jpg

So if he were registered as being born in Hawaii, Barack Obama -- because only he or another member of his immediate family could by law request a "Certification of Live Birth" -- must have a certified paper copy, with embossed stamp and seal, or he could request one. But what his campaign has put forward as genuine, according to the senior spokesman in the relevant department of the State of Hawaii, is not in fact a certified copy. It is not valid.

Whereas the uncertified Obama document provides the date "filed by registrar", the certified DeCosta document provides the date "accepted by the registrar." The difference between filing an application for a Certification of Live Birth and having it accepted may be key here.

The Obama campaign, however, continues to flaunt the unstamped, unsealed, uncertified document -- notably in very low resolution -- on its "Fight the Smears" website, with campaign officials vowing that it's authentic, sending the image around as "proof" to reporters, and inviting supporters to refer to it as they battle against supposed distortions and calumnies against their candidate. However, the campaign refuses to produce an authentic original birth certificate from the year of Obama's birth, or even a paper version with seal and signature of the "Certification of Live Birth." Nor has it even published an electronic copy with the requisite embossed seal and signature.

The failure of the Obama campaign to do so, and its willingness instead to put up an invalid, uncertified image -- what now appears to be a crude forgery -- raises the dramatic question of why the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate might have to hide.

Until now, it has been thought that there might be some embarrassing information on the real certificate: was the candidate's name something other than Barack Hussein Obama II, as it is claimed? Was no father listed because of the uncertainty over Obama's paternity? Was his father's race listed as Arab, or Muslim, rather than African? These revelations might be embarrassing, and further undermine his credibility, but he could disavow and downplay their significance. Would revealing such embarrassment outweigh the far greater risks involved in perpetuating a palpable forgery, or passing off an uncertified official document as being certified?

There is one possibility, however, which alone might justify the risk that Obama and his campaign seems to be taking in putting forward the uncertified document image: Obama was not in fact born in Hawaii and may not be an American citizen at all, or at least not a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution defines the requirement for the nation's chief executive. Real original birth certificates, circa 1961, have all kinds of verifiable information that would confirm Obama's origins, or throw them into doubt should they be lacking.

Research has since uncovered the law, in force at the time of Obama's birth, that were he to have been born in another country, his young American mother's youth extended time abroad would not suffice to make him a "natural born citizen." Even if he were naturalized later -- and there is no evidence that he was -- he would not be eligible to run for the office of president and -- if forgery or misrepresentation were involved -- he and his staffers might find themselves facing stiff federal and state charges.

But if, at this late date, Obama has no proof of being a US citizen by law, natural born or otherwise, then he or his advisers may be tempted to try to "tough out" the allegations about his "birth certificate" or the lack thereof. He and his campaign have gotten through other embarrassments: maybe this one will go away, too.

Because the consequences were he to admit, or should it come out, that he was not born in Hawaii would be so grave as to make it tempting to take the gamble and hope that no one dares call his most audacious bluff by demanding proof. Talk about the audacity of hope.

But now the State of Hawaii has dashed those hopes by clarifying that a certified birth certificate must have an embossed seal and signature, features his claimed birth certificate image lack.

The longer Obama waits, the graver grow the consequences of waiting.

There is one simple way for the candidate to clear up the issue once and for all: produce for public inspection and objective analysis the paper copy of his original Hawaiian birth certificate -- if one exists. If he's lost the original, he can request a certified copy. Ordinary citizens are required to produce one to get a passport or a driver's license. Surely it's not too much to ask from a man who aspires to hold the highest office in the land.

The issue is not whether Obama is black or white, Christian or Muslim. It is whether he was born in the USA and thus a citizen eligible according to the Constitution to run for President.

If proof of citizenship does not exist, then surely it would be wiser to admit it now.

Because if Barack Hussein Obama II does not produce definitive proof of his "natural born" American citizenship with original, verifiable documents, he will be setting the stage for a very public battle over his personal credibility, the basic legitimacy of his candidacy, and its possible criminality.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; issues; obama
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To: NativeNewYorker

No way, dude I saw that everything is cool, just bogey on over to the BHO Smears site....they clear all this hooey up...peace out!


41 posted on 06/25/2008 8:28:16 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Para-Ord.45
Not at all. You guys don't get it. The Obama minions are going to blow this off, just as the Dems blew off every new (and scary) revelation about Bubba in the late 1990s. I don't care what "pwoof" you have that he isn't a citizen (not that I buy this argument), it won't matter and you're wasting your time. Moreover, it detracts, I think, from the only hope of beating Obama, which is to force him into increasingly ridiculous policy statements that are at odds with a large majority of the public.

McCain cannot beat Obama, only Obama can beat Obama. And he can easily do so, but not if we distract with Ayers and birth certificates. The public simply doesn't care about that.

42 posted on 06/25/2008 8:28:23 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Not at all. You guys don't get it. The Obama minions are going to blow this off, just as the Dems blew off every new (and scary) revelation about Bubba in the late 1990s. I don't care what "pwoof" you have that he isn't a citizen (not that I buy this argument), it won't matter and you're wasting your time. Moreover, it detracts, I think, from the only hope of beating Obama, which is to force him into increasingly ridiculous policy statements that are at odds with a large majority of the public.

McCain cannot beat Obama, only Obama can beat Obama. And he can easily do so, but not if we distract with Ayers and birth certificates. The public simply doesn't care about that.

43 posted on 06/25/2008 8:28:27 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: CindyDawg

You’re right, some damn liberal, under-educated judge would have the audacity to rule the US Constitution un-constitutional......


44 posted on 06/25/2008 8:29:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Para-Ord.45

I’m going to throw this out there...

Obama is a licensed lawyer in Illinois as of 2008. I did not look into the requirements to sit for the bar exam or to be sorn in. Perhaps there is a birth record with the Illinois Supreme Court.


45 posted on 06/25/2008 8:30:43 AM PDT by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!!!!)
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To: CindyDawg

that would be great news for ahnold...


46 posted on 06/25/2008 8:30:52 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: AppyPappy
“Why not just release the certificate and move on?”

I agree. My suspicion is that there is something else on the birth certificate that would be embarrassing (but not necessarily disqualifying) to Obama.

47 posted on 06/25/2008 8:30:53 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: SE Mom

What’s with ‘only electronically’? Does that mean they do some electronically as well as on paper?


48 posted on 06/25/2008 8:31:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Brilliant
"Since his mother was an American, I don’t think it matters."

That's what I was thinking when I first heard of this. But I saw somewhere on an earlier post on this subject that the mother would have had to have had 5 years U.S. residence after the age of 16. As she was only 19 or 20 when he was born she didn't meet that requirement. I'll see if I can find that post and if I can I'll get back to you.

49 posted on 06/25/2008 8:32:45 AM PDT by Jaxter (Everything I needed to know about Obama I learned by Googling "Black Liberation Theology".)
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To: F15Eagle
“There’s no other valid reason unless there is something significant.”

Let Dan Rather and Mary Mapes look into it.

50 posted on 06/25/2008 8:34:09 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: Brilliant
Since his mother was an American, I don’t think it matters.

It does. Read the article.
51 posted on 06/25/2008 8:35:16 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Para-Ord.45; M. Espinola

If, indeed, the document is a forgery, the O man is in very serious trouble. Forging a Hawaiian birth certificate would be a federal felony especially because citizenship is a requirement for high office. I cannot believe the FBI is not busily investigating these allegations.


52 posted on 06/25/2008 8:35:20 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: LS
but not if we distract with Ayers and birth certificates.

And that's a good enough answer to the questions about why doesn't he release it. It makes a great distraction and I wouldn't release it either for the same reason.

I've got one seriously screwed up birth certificate with 4 different dates on it. Every time I need to use it I'm questioned about it's validity.
53 posted on 06/25/2008 8:35:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The state should have the copy. Let’s see it.


54 posted on 06/25/2008 8:37:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Always Right

I had to get my birth certificate from PA a couple years ago. It wasn’t a photocopy of my original, it was a freshly printed one with the existing information. So the fact that this certificate doesn’t look like they did 5o years ago does not surprise me. Would seem pretty easy enough to compare it against Birth Certificates back then, and today to point out the obvious differences between the two.

Also, you’d need to have someone with a similar background to see if the PC movement hit Hawaii such that they no longer print new Birth Certificates with the “outdated” terminology.


55 posted on 06/25/2008 8:38:08 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: riverdawg

Does the photoshopped birth certificate say that his name is Barak Hussein MOHAMMED Obama?


56 posted on 06/25/2008 8:38:40 AM PDT by darth
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To: LS
McCain cannot beat Obama, only Obama can beat Obama. And he can easily do so, but not if we distract with Ayers and birth certificates.

I think all avenues should be explored. Most will come up empty, but there is enough smoke here to at least try to get a looksie. We shouldn't make a huge deal about it, but getting a certified document (either a certification of live birth or a certificate of birth) should not be an unreasonable thing.

57 posted on 06/25/2008 8:38:58 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Para-Ord.45

We have a Federal Election Commission to investigate campaign finance issues. Is there not a comparable federal agency that verifies the minimum credentials of a candidate?


58 posted on 06/25/2008 8:39:55 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (We're all mavericks now.)
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To: Para-Ord.45; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; LucyT; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP

59 posted on 06/25/2008 8:40:51 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

I think I read here the Sec of State for the state you seek your first office in checks your eligibility.


60 posted on 06/25/2008 8:43:36 AM PDT by txhurl
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