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Airport Tyranny
Town Hall ^ | June 18, 2008 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 06/18/2008 4:13:02 AM PDT by CWWren

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"...The job of the BDOs will be that of examining passengers for "body language and facial cues … for signs of bad intentions."

Ridiculous!

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1 posted on 06/18/2008 4:13:02 AM PDT by CWWren
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To: CWWren

So...is Williams suggesting we drop security at airports altogether?


2 posted on 06/18/2008 4:16:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: CWWren
Actually it's not ridiculous, if done right. The Israelis do this sort of screening and my impression is that they don't waste any time at all on the Walter Williamses of the world.

ML/NJ

3 posted on 06/18/2008 4:18:54 AM PDT by ml/nj
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It's been at least five years since I've flown commercial, and for good reason: I don't wish to be arrested for questioning actions by often arrogant, rude Transportation Security Administration (TSA) workers.

If it's been five years, how does he know they're "often arrogant, rude"?
I fly frequently and this has not been my experience. While there are dumb and rude TSA workers, by and large they work hard and try to be accommodating where they can.
Besides, you can always give feedback at the TSA blog.
4 posted on 06/18/2008 4:19:19 AM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool ("O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends" - Koran 5.51)
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Bovard reports that in March 2004, airline passengers filed almost 3,000 formal complaints with the federal government over the conduct of TSA screeners.

U.S. airlines carry on average about 50 million domestic passengers in a given month. So using Williams' figures, about .006% result in a complaint and 99.994% do not. That isn't a bad performance.

5 posted on 06/18/2008 4:21:47 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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6 posted on 06/18/2008 4:24:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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It is even worse that everyone thinks:

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is starting to equip its 48,000 screeners with 3-inch-by-2-inch, silver-colored, copper and zinc badges that will be worn on new royal-blue police-style shirts. The attire aims to convey an image of authority to passengers, who have harassed, pushed and in a few instances punched screeners. "Some of our officers aren't respected," TSA spokeswoman Ellen Howe said.

7 posted on 06/18/2008 4:24:54 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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Actually it's not ridiculous, if done right. The Israelis do this sort of screening and my impression is that they don't waste any time at all on the Walter Williamses of the world.

The Dutch do as well and it works splendidly.
8 posted on 06/18/2008 4:25:25 AM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool ("O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends" - Koran 5.51)
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I went through several airports in the last few weeks. What a circus!! You never can outguess them. The best thing is to act like timid sheep and don’t do anything unless you are told to do so. Take off your shoes (even if they’re flip-flops), no liquids over three ounces (a rolled up tube of toothpaste that USED to hold nine ounces is discarded). Take out the quart size ziplock baggie containing liquids (like aftershave) and it is separate from the luggage in the x-ray tub OR they will dismember your luggage like a banshee. Don’t take your wallet out of your pocket (because the person in front of you had to show ID) unless you are told to do so. There is so much more but . . . alas.


9 posted on 06/18/2008 4:25:53 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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that = than

Sorry.

10 posted on 06/18/2008 4:26:19 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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I travel frequently and find that TSA differs depending on the airport. In New Hampshire and even Boston I generally find friendly TSA agents. In Orlando they’re pretty good too but so many people pass through there on their way to the American-Mecca, Disney that the agents are often tired and overworked. However, in Philadelphia, I almost always find nasty jack-booted fascists.


11 posted on 06/18/2008 4:34:29 AM PDT by rhombus
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If I were the CEO of an airline, I would certainly want to have my own inspectors screening passengers doing the job with the right to PROFILE.

911 would not have happened if profiling were permitted. Similarily, much drug smuggling would decrease if profiling were permitted.

What is so threatening to our liberty by allowing officers of law to ask for ID. Look at the hoops one must o through to get a loan. How about an IRS compliancve audit.

If Big Govt. could run a business better than private industry, Fedex & UPS wouldn't exist.

12 posted on 06/18/2008 4:37:16 AM PDT by cliff630
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If I were the CEO of an airline, I would certainly want to have my own inspectors screening passengers doing the job with the right to PROFILE.

And who will be doing the profiling? The same TSA agents you and Williams hold in such contempt?

13 posted on 06/18/2008 4:39:57 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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That isn't a bad performance.

Fly much?

Everytime I fly I get hassled.

I have an artificial knee and immediately show the 'screeners' my medical details and they tell me to move to another area for special attention.

Fifteen minutes later they come and extensively wand my entire body. When they are finished and I move to retrieve my x-rayed bag they shout at me to "Get back on the other side of the yellow line.."

My 90-year-old uncle is pulled aside for special attention. He is groped between the legs by a female screener. He requests a male perform such intimate gropings and is asked by the gum-chewing moron "Do you have a problem with this? Do you want to speak to my supervisor?"

The reason the number of complaints seem miniscule is that many of those who are insulted and invaded by these low-IQ bozos are in a hurry to get where they're going.

There are many more personally observed instances, but perhaps I should include them in a book.

14 posted on 06/18/2008 4:40:25 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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Two years ago, my decision was reinforced by my daughter's experience when going through airport security with her two lovebirds. Having shown her ticket and ID to security personnel, and walking toward the metal detector, they started shouting to her, "Miss, you're going to have to take them birds out of the cage." I watched with incredulity as she approached the metal detectors

What a whiner Mr. Williams. Who cares if you never enter an airport..Ride a bicycle, drive a car, buy a horse, use a canoe.who cares........

15 posted on 06/18/2008 4:41:00 AM PDT by BARLF
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My wife and I and another couple had to go from Columbus, OH to Atlanta, GA this past weekend. It took ten hours to drive including fuel/food/potty stops. $200.00 in fuel at $4.00/gallon for the round trip. Another couple flew the same route. It took 8 hours door to door and $630.00.

Driving is my way to go. Take as much or as little luggage as you want and it never gets lost. Leave when you want and you have your car when you get there.


16 posted on 06/18/2008 4:42:24 AM PDT by newbolt
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So...is Williams suggesting we drop security at airports altogether?

We have the ability to know about potential terrorists before they get to the airport.

Wasting the time of citizens in the name of political correctness is so ridiculous that it defies all logic.

These 58,000 or so federal employees, whose collective IQ wouldn't approach room temperature, could try to find a job in this convoluted job market. Many would wind up flipping burgers, but my observations have been that that's what they're most qualified to do.

17 posted on 06/18/2008 4:45:23 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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The terrorist who is planning to pass through to glory and 72 virgins in paradise is extremely calm. He is convinced that he is doing the right thing and that in a short while he will receive his reward. This sort of thing will pass the ridiculous “body language and facial cues” test because, in his mind, his intentions are noble.

Instead, the weary traveler who has just put up with delays, missed connections, lost baggage, standing in line for hours while needing to use the rest room, is the one who will fail the ridiculous tests.


18 posted on 06/18/2008 4:45:53 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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Good grief. Flying with two lovebirds???????????????


19 posted on 06/18/2008 4:46:50 AM PDT by Carley
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If it's been five years, how does he know they're "often arrogant, rude"?

Since Dr. Williams has a brain, he can read.

It wasn't very long ago that a screener shoved her hands against the breasts of a 58-year-old female passenger roughly handling her looking for a bomb in her boobs, no doubt.

The passenger grew incensed by this and performed the same inspection on the screener stating "How do you like this when someone does this to you?"

20 posted on 06/18/2008 4:48:35 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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