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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

“That is NOT a 1961 document.
I want the original or copy of the original”

Very good point. Remember Dan Rather.
Do not accept this document on its face!
Consider where it is coming from!
Verify!

Questions:
- Did birth certificates actually issued in 1961 look different?
- Did the certificates issued in 1961 contain any _other information_ that is no longer included on “modern” certificates?
- Is it standard procedure in Hawaii for the “filing date” (by registrar) to be FOUR DAYS AFTER the date of birth? Other Hawaiins reading this, can you check your own birth certificates?
- If the answer to the above question is “no”, what circumstances would cause a delay in such registration?
- Why is the “Certificate Number” blacked out? What could that possibly reveal if we were to see it?

Just some thoughts. Feel free to jump in and shoot me down.

- John


162 posted on 06/12/2008 2:19:24 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman

If you want to shoot it down, why not contact the State of Hawaii and send them a copy of the jpg, and see if that is indeed the format they would send out.


165 posted on 06/12/2008 2:25:08 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Fishrrman
Why is the “Certificate Number” blacked out?

Because then it would be easy to verify that this is bogus...?

178 posted on 06/12/2008 3:08:50 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Fishrrman
Is it standard procedure in Hawaii for the “filing date” (by registrar) to be FOUR DAYS AFTER the date of birth?

I don't know about Hawaii, but I know that in Delaware the filing date can be as long as 2 weeks. My daughter was born on a Thursday evening, July 2nd, and the birth wasn't "officially" registered until around the 10th or the 11th. I never had a copy of her "official" birth certificate until I requested one in order to enrol her in school in 2003.

189 posted on 06/12/2008 3:30:58 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Fishrrman
Is it standard procedure in Hawaii for the “filing date” (by registrar) to be FOUR DAYS AFTER the date of birth? Other Hawaiins reading this, can you check your own birth certificates?

August 4, 1961 was a Friday, and he was born in the evening, so it mostly likely wouldn't be filed that day. The county office would be closed over the weekend (and possibly any hospital administrative offices), so a few day's delay in filing is pretty routine. Most states give you a few days to a week to file a birth certificate.

191 posted on 06/12/2008 3:42:11 PM PDT by texten
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