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To: PeterPrinciple

“I think some birth certificates do state the religion of the parents...........”

Rush needs to get on the phone with some supporters from Hawaii, QUICK.

Someone there will be able to verify just what type of info appears on Hawaiian birth certificates from the early 1960’s.

Obama is hiding something. I sense that _what_ he is hiding must be more than insignificant, otherwise he would simply make his birth certificate public and be done with it.

What is he hiding?

Is there absolute proof that he _was_ “born in the USA”?

This may be a ridculous question, but is there such a thing as an “ex post facto” birth certificate, issued AFTER a birth, in any circumstances? If such a thing exists, has Hawaii ever issued them?
(by “after a birth”, I realize that a birth must occur for a certificate to be issued, so that issuance can never occur _before_ a birth. But just how long AFTER the actual birth will a certificate be issued? Could it be just hours, or a matter of days?)

- John


78 posted on 06/10/2008 11:04:46 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman
“ex post facto” birth certificate, issued AFTER a birth,

Not too many people get 'em before they be born....

82 posted on 06/10/2008 11:06:25 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Fishrrman
This may be a ridiculous question, but is there such a thing as an “ex post facto” birth certificate, issued AFTER a birth, in any circumstances? If such a thing exists, has Hawaii ever issued them?

Yes I have one, I was born illegitimate and it was changed after the fact to put my adoptive father's name on it as father.

I was four years old.

If Obama's adoptive step father secured for him Indonesian citizenship as part of the adoption process and Obama traveled under Indonesian documents to the United States his US citizenship would automatically have been revoked if he didn't reaffirm it at eighteen.

The Name in the father box on the birth certificate as well as any sort of Indonesian passport or other such documents become critical to his candidacy at the point of discovery. Which is why I believe he does not want to release them.

Your papers please?

94 posted on 06/10/2008 11:15:31 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Fishrrman

My son’s birth certificate was issued about 5 days after his birth because we couldn’t decide on a name. Five days would be enough time to fly a newborn baby from Kenya or another country to Hawaii.

It is possible that Obama was born in a foreign country and then flown to Hawaii and have a late birth certificate issued showing he was born in Hawaii and not his true country of birth. It is highly unlikely IMHO, but possible.


124 posted on 06/10/2008 11:40:35 AM PDT by FFranco
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To: Fishrrman

is there such a thing as an “ex post facto” birth certificate, issued AFTER a birth, in any circumstances?
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Yes there are but it is now quite rare ,, my father was born at home in NYC in the 1920’s ,, his mother had to swear to his birthdate at city hall years later to get him admitted to school as there was no doctor or midwife present to file at the time of birth and it all was forgotten until needed.

There are books with sample birth certificates from all cities, counties, states etc. ,, but the books are never really complete. What we’re talking about isn’t a uniform document which is why they are so very easy to counterfeit ,,, how many people really know what a 1971 certificate from some long closed hospital in Oklahoma really looks like. There have been many instances of city halls burning with records destroyed ,, you can never verify anyone from those towns... Here’s an idea ,, pick a town that was demolished for a dam resovoir...


213 posted on 06/10/2008 2:21:09 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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