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Is it Possible that California Could Go for McCain?
May 30, 2008 | no dems

Posted on 05/30/2008 7:15:09 AM PDT by no dems

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To: Hildy
So many young people who turned out in the primaries, won't in the general.

On what do you base that?
61 posted on 05/30/2008 5:21:17 PM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: theFIRMbss

You need to chill. You didn’t have to read my post nor did you have to comment. Besides, who died and made you the website moderator? Now, lay down the crack pipe................


62 posted on 05/30/2008 5:23:17 PM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Nope; this is not a joke. One thing I did not add in my reasons as to why CA might go GOP for the first time since 1988:

A lot of people will not admit to a pollster or around the water cooler that they would not vote for a Black man under any circumstances. Now, most people would vote for any decent person regardless of color (Colin Powell comes to mind), but, B. Hussein Obama is NOT a decent person. He’s a Marxist punk.


63 posted on 05/30/2008 5:29:11 PM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: houston1

No, there is no contradiction. In #3 you apparently missed the word “closet”. He feigns Christianity but many believe he is a closet Muslim who will show his true colors when it’s too late to do anything about it.


64 posted on 05/30/2008 5:40:14 PM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: Amerigomag

“What is being suggested, on a daily basis, by a great many folks, both in the trenches and politically connected, is that Republicans dump McCain at the nominating convention, select someone more representative of the party and win in November.”

Help me here. What are the chances that McCain could be dumped at convention? He is often referred to as the “presumptive Republican nominee” but he did reach the number of primary delegates needed to win the nomination. Are those delegates pledged or could they refuse to vote for McCain on the first round of voting at convention? Anyone??


65 posted on 05/30/2008 6:07:01 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: no dems

My knowledge of young people.


66 posted on 05/30/2008 11:03:37 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: seekthetruth
Are those delegates pledged or could they refuse to vote for McCain on the first round of voting at convention? Anyone??

It is my understanding that all Pledged Delegates have to vote for "their" candidate on the first ballot. Otherwise, you'd have the nomination process tied up in so many lawsuits you'd have to postpone the General Election. BUT, after the first ballot, they are on their own.

That is why if neither Hillary or B. Hussein have the required number of delegates, the Dem Convention could be, as my Granny Crane used to say, "one mell of a hess".
67 posted on 05/31/2008 5:35:13 AM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: no dems
>Now, lay down the crack pipe...

It's not my crack pipe!
Amy was just over and
she must have dropped it . . .

68 posted on 05/31/2008 7:15:07 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: TonyInOhio

Hell, Norway? Right outside of Friggard?

Yes “Hell” freezes there.


69 posted on 05/31/2008 5:58:06 PM PDT by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (Government that can do anything for you; can do anything TO you)
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To: Retired Greyhound
I think it depends on how big a joke Obama turns out to be.

Turns out to be??????....I laugh all day every day at his three ring circus....and I'm a Californian..:o)

70 posted on 05/31/2008 8:50:16 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("If youÂ’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: no dems

Listen, if they are even bringing this matter up means someone is hearing whispers through the proverbial grapevine that California might be in play. The L.L. Cool J song: I’m going back to Cali, Cali.....is humming through my head./Just Asking - seoul62........


71 posted on 05/31/2008 8:57:56 PM PDT by seoul62 (T)
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To: no dems
Points 4 and 5 seem to be the best ones for causing the state to swing to McCain, but I personally don't think they are enough.

Point 1 has an equal and opposite effect, the gay marriage thing will bring out liberals in droves, too.

Point 2 will be neutralized by Barry O dropping his church, and the fact that most Californians really don't care about religion anyway, unless you're too seriously into it.

Point 3 is just plain wrong, most people don't believe Barry is a muzzie, just that he had a 'confused' religious upbringing, and that he is still struggling to find a Christian tradition, no matter how 'un-Christian' it might appear to fundamentalist Christians, when he finally lands on one. The people who are truly concerned about his religion are ones who would never vote for him under any circumstances. The mushy middle really doesn't care about his religion, unless they can see a way it might possibly impact them.

72 posted on 05/31/2008 9:10:41 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: no dems

Can he win California?

Why not? He is more democrat than many democrats.


73 posted on 06/01/2008 4:09:19 AM PDT by Hambone02
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To: hunter112
Most people don't believe he is a Muslim but many do. This can be especially meaningful on the National level considering how close the last two elections have been. A 4 or 5 percentage point swing, for any reason, can make a big difference.

Add up the "possible" Dem defections from all 5 of the Points I made and........
74 posted on 06/01/2008 5:28:14 AM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: no dems
I would submit that anybody who thinks he might be a hidden islammofascist was somebody whose vote he never had anyway. There's way more absolutely certain things we know about Barry O than where his mind is religiously. You'd have to ignore them, too, before you ignored his religion, and the Kool-Aid drinkers who wave his "Change" signs around at rallies are already past that point.

Like I said, points 4 and 5 are your strongest ones for swinging voters who would otherwise tend to vote Rat. The distrust that Hispanic voters have for Obama has been clearly demonstrated in exit polls, and since we've had the unusual circumstance of having a truly contested primary battle through all fifty states and the territories, we've got a good read on what role identity politics is going to play in this election. We're also starting to see a lot of middle-aged women whining and getting bitchy as Hillary's options are narrowing.

But people who are already suspicious of Obambi will remain that way. I would suppose a few people in the early caucuses and primaries who did vote for him have changed their minds about it, and had wished they had voted for the Beest, but when it comes down to it, they were definite Democrat voters (no Operation Chaos mischief, since Republicans had their own quite active contest going on), and will find a way to resolve their suspicious about Obama by finding McCain to be worse.

75 posted on 06/01/2008 11:40:44 AM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: hunter112

BTTT!!!


76 posted on 06/03/2008 10:07:46 PM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: Matchett-PI

I’ll bump to that!


77 posted on 08/26/2008 10:07:14 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Whoo Hoo!! :)


78 posted on 08/26/2008 10:49:16 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase-2 Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber!)
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To: Matchett-PI

I don’t remember posting that!

Weird!


79 posted on 08/26/2008 10:52:39 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Ok never mind.

I remember posting it now. :)


80 posted on 08/26/2008 11:04:31 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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