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Victor Davis Hanson: Euromania. Europe to an American.
pajamasmedia.com ^ | May 23rd, 2008 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/29/2008 10:12:55 AM PDT by Tolik

It’s a Euro Thing

If one were to collate European criticisms of Americana and then compare them to reality in Europe, well, sure confusion results. Some random thoughts about another visit these next two weeks in Europe.

1. We Americans, we are told, are violators of freedom and have shredded our Western heritage through Guantanamo, the Patriot Act, and detentions.

But if one were to assess rationally the degree of privacy and freedom in Europe, by any fair margin it proves far more the police state. There are far more municipal surveillance video cameras. On the highway flashes go off, as computerized cameras snap pictures of speeding motorists who set off their sensors. Bus drivers must find ingenious ways to hide their hours logged driving, as they insert their computerized cards into their ignition to start their motors. All that seems unimaginable in the US.

2. Grasping Americans? The last few weeks I have stayed at some top hotels in the US while speaking. Internet service was usually around $10 to log in on Wifi. The pool and gym were of course gratis.

Here? Hotel internet service can run about 20-30 euros for a mere day. There are additional fees to use the gym or pool at most hotels. Read your bill carefully at restaurants; most require some “correction” as the waiters inadvertently add things not ordered. In short, money and its acquisition seem on the brains of almost everyone you meet.

3. Health conscious Europeans? In France and Luxembourg this week, I tried to count the obese among an average of every 10 or so on the street. The result? Americans seem no fatter than Europeans.

Smoking? I don’t know the statistics, but each time I come over here I notice immediately that it is far more common and socially acceptable. As far as the incidence of meat consumption, and the size of servings, I sense no difference, only that food is about double what it is in the states.

4. Repugnant American culture? The television has nothing much but dubbed American old movies and current television series. Fashion, music, and popular culture are usually American derived. America may run a massive trade deficit with Europe, but American trade names are everywhere.

5. American decline? The French and German newspapers are full of scare stories about their own fuel costs, price-fixing and the loss of national treasure. Scandals involving mortgages and bank collapse are common. In other words, Europeans share the same anxieties about finance and energy as we do—despite having much of the oil and banking industries nationalized or at least carefully state monitored.

The Cauldron of Europe

The region along the French-German border is beautiful, rich and understandably disputed for over 2,000 years. We Americans have a long history with it as well. My mother’s cousin Holt Cather is buried at the American cemetery at Hamm. Not far away at the Meuse-Argonne battlefield, my paternal grandfather was gassed in the first World War. My late cousin Dick Davis came through Luxembourg with the 3rd Army. And so it goes for most Americans, whose ancestors came here under much different circumstances that we do today.

We rightfully give the European Union credit for stopping the historic bloodletting for two generations. But two qualifiers. First, it was birthed because of the American-led destruction of fascism; and preserved only by the American-led resistance to the Red Army.

Second, the price for peace has been a sort of Lotus-eater society of long lunches, obsession with fashion and “nice things”, and secular worship of the God Leisure. In their abhorrence at the old catalysts of strife—nationalism, patriotism, religion—the Europeans have failed to see that national defense, religious belief, and pride in culture need not lead to endless war, but in fact to a healthy society that is content not to expect heaven on earth.

If the EU Needs the US, and We Become Another EU, then where’s our U.S.?

Today the French here are striking over threats to raise the retirement age back up to 62, and to reconsider the 35-hour work week. Lost in the discussion is any notion that there is not a “they” out there to shake more money from—only themselves. Europe, for all its socialism and egalitarianism, seems a sort of lottery society, in which each union, each age cohort, each EU collective recipient, in a game of musical chairs, tries to outwit the other—the pie finite, its pieces endlessly resliced.

I have admiration for the European Union’s unmistakable achievement in avoiding war for half a century, and its widespread prosperity—but it has come at a price. Given what Barack Obama has said about raising taxes, funding new entitlements, yielding to international consensus abroad, and seeing Americans in terms of various racial, class, and tribal constituencies, all with justified grievances, I think his notion of our future is what we see in European today—even as the Europeans grow increasingly restless about unions, high taxes, and their impotence in the world abroad. Apparently even two-hour lunches, no children, no church, no military, good food and the disco can get boring.

A note on Obama: in minute one, Euros gush; in minute two, the questions come; in minute three, they express concern (if they think you too might as well and so can be candid); in minute four, you sense they understand there is only one EU. So should the US become one too, they worry about who might play the US to the US?

In a sick way this speaks well of Obama: by his intent to turn the US into something like the EU, he is scaring some elites in the EU as never before. There can only be one socialist union: it requires a capitalist wide-open trading partner and a Nato-like ally to offer it free defense as well as an easy target for cheap invective. So the Europeans hint: “Please, don’t become quite like us—we need you as you are.”

 


http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/

see the link for VDH critique of Obama's Memorial Day speach. Hanson's European tour continues here:

Memorial Day in Europe

I spent the last two days visiting the American military cemetery at the Meuse-Argonne that commemorates the horrific battle of that name in 1918 (my grandfather Frank Hanson was gassed and severely wounded in the battle), and the next day at Hamm, in Luxembourg, where George S. Patton is buried. Both are beautiful, solemn places, and the care and attention given to their upkeep should make all Americans proud. The evidence of Memorial Day French and English flowers and wreaths was remarkable.

Friendly Europeans

At Bastogne today, I heard a fiery pro-American rant from a Dutchman, contrasting not just the WWII treatment of his country by the United States versus that from Germany, but the present-day treatment as well from haughty powerful EU members like Germany.

Two notes on Anti-Americanism this trip: one, it seems on the wane; two, it is almost an exclusively urban and elite phenomenon. Everyday Europeans in the countryside are especially warm, and seem tired of knee-jerk anti-Americanism. Most seem more worried about Arab immigrants and German bullying in the EU.

The Dollar

Another note. Although the season is early, there are almost no Americans to be seen. Gas is 1.60 Euros a liter or about (over) $9 a gallon for gas here. I haven’t seen much of Exxon here, so at least we can be assured that the evil American oil companies are not at the heart of the “price-gouging”. The price fixing here seems instead a combination of Gulf monarchies and EU tax collectors. Most hoteliers are happy, but whine nevertheless that fewer Americans are coming, and more Euros are going stateside for the summer.

More European myths

I try to come over here 2-3 times a year and am always struck by the Al-Gore-type lectures back home to Americans about how far we are behind on the Internet, public wifi, etc. Two observations. Buying Internet here is about 3 times the cost as in the US. And in every hotel I’ve been at yet, there has been some sort of disruption of service or complete failure. At almost any hotel in the US, it takes about 3 minutes to log-in for 24-hour service at about $10; here the same time runs about $25 and is far less reliable.

The high tax, big government, secular, pacifist, and enforced egalitarianism of Europe–which seems the Obaman model– is something we should be very wary of emulating



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1 posted on 05/29/2008 10:12:55 AM PDT by Tolik
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2 posted on 05/29/2008 10:14:42 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

Fascinating observations. Everytime I read VDH, I learn something.


3 posted on 05/29/2008 10:28:12 AM PDT by Crolis
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To: Tolik
The high tax, big government, secular, pacifist, and enforced egalitarianism of Europe–which seems the Obaman model– is something we should be very wary of emulating.

The good news is that it seems right now that the popularity of socialism is on a sharp decline in Europe, as their recent elections prove.

4 posted on 05/29/2008 10:31:55 AM PDT by jpl ("Don't tell me words don't matter." - Barack Obama, via Deval Patrick)
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To: Tolik
I'm over there 4-5 times a year (Berlin next week) and I'd say he's mostly correct. The one thing is WiFi service which is often expensive enough I just forgo it -- but I haven't encountered the difficulties and unreliability.

I've seen somewhat indirectly others' concern over German bullying (I work mostly with Germans so I'm not well positioned to see that).

But some things are just outrageous. In Copenhagen ca. 2002 the tariffs on hotel phones were so high, about $1-2/minute, my hotel put a warning label on the hotel room phones.

5 posted on 05/29/2008 10:33:44 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Tolik

BTTT


6 posted on 05/29/2008 10:36:38 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Tolik
There can only be one socialist union: it requires a capitalist wide-open trading partner and a Nato-like ally to offer it free defense as well as an easy target for cheap invective

hanson genius ping
7 posted on 05/29/2008 10:38:11 AM PDT by steel_resolve (We are living in the post-rational world where being a moron is an asset)
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To: Tolik
There can only be one socialist union: it requires a capitalist wide-open trading partner and a Nato-like ally to offer it free defense

VDH has a way of stating truths in the clearest, most profound ways possible. I am always amazed. I look forward to his articles simply because he is the only one out there who has the guts to tell it like it is without sugar coating it or burying it in academic terms and conjectures.
8 posted on 05/29/2008 10:42:44 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: Tolik
As usual Hanson nails it.

At almost any hotel in the US, it takes about 3 minutes to log-in for 24-hour service at about $10;>

As one who travels much, our typical mid priced hotel in the $89- $119 price range has FREE hi speed internet. In fact I'm typing right now at one of those hotels and the internet is very good and FREE.

My last trip to Germany I stayed in a mid priced hotel and the internet was, if I recall correctly, $65 euros for a 7 day package. Basically the equivalent of what ONLY the higher priced convention center/downtown metropolis hotels charge here.

9 posted on 05/29/2008 10:43:17 AM PDT by A message
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To: A message
Aw, you beat me to it. The last half-dozen places I've stayed in the States (and by NO means were they luxury hotels!) it's been "free," meaning included in the room price. Like water. Which brings up a very interesting contrast, not in cost, but in attitude. It turns out to be more expensive to administer a separate charge for its use than to simply provide its presence. That's cold, hard economics, not sentiment.

I'm guessing European hotels may figure this out, but if they don't I'd love to know why not. Excessive government interference? European FReepers, your comments on the topic are most welcome!

10 posted on 05/29/2008 11:01:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: WesternCulture; Night Hawk
Comments from Euro Freepers welcome. Victor Davis Hanson: Euromania. Europe to an American.
11 posted on 05/29/2008 11:40:18 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: knighthawk

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12 posted on 05/29/2008 12:42:09 PM PDT by Tolik
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To: Billthedrill

Same here. Some regular business hotels offer a free breakfast. Not as good as a paid one, but free. I stayed in one that offers one free beer to start a “happy hour”!


13 posted on 05/29/2008 12:59:37 PM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

One of the best things about VDH is the lack of invective and hyperbole. Little ranting about ‘treason’ or ‘traitors’, and no juvenile making fun of names; just simple, unadorned and un-exaggerated facts placed in historical and cultural context.


14 posted on 05/29/2008 1:36:15 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: Tolik
Two notes on Anti-Americanism this trip: one, it seems on the wane; two, it is almost an exclusively urban and elite phenomenon.

That's been my experience as well, and really, it always seemed to have been an "elite" fashion, not some deep-held cultural animus.

I've always liked Europe, (even France). I'm gonna miss it when it's gone.

15 posted on 05/29/2008 1:45:06 PM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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Europe-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

16 posted on 05/29/2008 2:01:45 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: steel_resolve

There can only be one socialist union: it requires a capitalist wide-open trading partner and a Nato-like ally to offer it free defense as well as an easy target for cheap invective

00000

THis is the same dynamic with Canadians and their “single payer” ie government health care. Anyone with a serious problem just comes to the US instead of waiting in long lines. What will Canadians do if our health care goes “single payer?”


17 posted on 05/29/2008 4:01:37 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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bump for AM


18 posted on 05/29/2008 6:46:14 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I didn't leave the republicans, they left me.)
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bump for AM


19 posted on 05/29/2008 6:49:04 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I didn't leave the republicans, they left me.)
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To: Tolik

btt


20 posted on 05/29/2008 6:57:43 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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