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Another mass shooting stopped by a carry permit holder:
http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/05/28/guns-in-bars/ ^

Posted on 05/28/2008 10:55:06 PM PDT by newbie2008

In the small town of Winnemucca Nevada a man bent on performing a mass shooting at a bar was stopped by an armed CCW permit holder who happened to be in the right place at the right time. The alleged mass murderer had already killed two victims & had injured two others with gunshot wounds, but while he was reloading he was shot & killed by an armed CCW permit holder who was also at the bar.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; selfdefense; shooting
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To: BootsOfEscaping
Thing is...A handgun is not allowed to be carried where liquor is served.

Not true, it depends on the state. In Virginia, you can open carry in a bar.

21 posted on 05/29/2008 5:14:21 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: newbie2008

Thanks for the post newbie. Always like a happy ending...


22 posted on 05/29/2008 5:14:26 AM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel on Guard)
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To: TexasRedeye
"...because most don't have liquor licenses and only sell "setups"

I'm not familiar with that term. What are "setups"?

23 posted on 05/29/2008 5:25:45 AM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: newbie2008

Now thats what I call gun control


24 posted on 05/29/2008 5:27:57 AM PDT by Wavrnr10
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To: TexasRedeye

Ohio CCW has the same law. I do not know about holding my gun in a topless bar.


25 posted on 05/29/2008 5:30:29 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: USS Alaska
Many states have “open” carry laws. However ... strap on a “45” and walk down a busy street, dollars to donuts you will be stopped quickly.

And that is the major point that everybody forgets about conceal carry .... I DON'T want anyone to see because CCW in itself is tactical. I don't want the punk that is about to hold me up KNOW that I am carrying ... tactically he is in for a BIG surprise.

26 posted on 05/29/2008 5:36:43 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Pablo64
I'm not familiar with that term. What are "setups"?

You want a "whiskey and water?". You bring the whiskey. We'll "sell" you the water!

27 posted on 05/29/2008 5:45:29 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Pablo64

“I’m not familiar with that term. What are “setups”? “

Everything but the booze. It might be a glass with some ice or it might be some bar mixer in a glass.

Some states prohibit bars. The way around it is to have clubs. They give you the drink but sell you the setup. Technically, they didn’t sell you any booze, just a clean glass.


28 posted on 05/29/2008 5:52:06 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser
I see. Now some things start to make sense. About 8 or 9 years ago, I had to be in Texas for some training, and one night when I was out for dinner I wanted a beer with my meal. They said I had to join their club. I had to show them my driver's license and sign a little piece of paper. The waitress didn't really want to explain it to me, but I guess that was their way of making me a member of their club (no dues or fees to join).

Wonder if I'm still a member? Maybe I'll run for club president!

29 posted on 05/29/2008 5:59:09 AM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: TexasRedeye

So you can bring your own booze? What if I don’t want a glass? Is it illegal to drink if I don’t buy the water (just sip from the bottle)?


30 posted on 05/29/2008 6:01:39 AM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: Pablo64
...their way of making me a member of their club (no dues or fees to join).

Different kind of establishment here. They had a liquor license from the state but could not sell alcoholic beverages in the community so they st up as a "private club" which had the rights to sell these beverages regardless of city ordinances banning sales in other "public" establishments. Establishments who sell only "setups" do not have a liquor licenses from the state and are prohibited by city ordinances to serve alcoholic beverages in any form.

31 posted on 05/29/2008 6:06:43 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: weegee
He NEVER will be convicted.

Wrong.

While usually delegated & deferred to the government, the people DO, under circumstances which do not warrant such deferrement, have a right to act as judge, jury, and executioner. If the people did not have that right, the gov't could not be granted that power. In this particular case, the "alleged" was judged on evidence, ajudicated an immediate threat to society for which an immediate sentence of capital punishment was required, and the sentence promptly carried out - and other than simply having the process audited later, the verdict stands.

32 posted on 05/29/2008 6:14:01 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: Pablo64
Is it illegal to drink if I don’t buy the water (just sip from the bottle)?

Illegal? No! Not permitted - YES! You can "sip" from the bottle all you want but you WILL buy the water and OFTEN! The bouncers will ensure that, hehehehe.

33 posted on 05/29/2008 6:33:29 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: BootsOfEscaping
Yep. And with 0.08 BAC DWI and a standard of “2 drinks” observed being enough to land a “Public Intoxication” charge, charges for discharging a gun “while intoxicated” (no breathalyzer necessary) can't be far off in this country.
34 posted on 05/29/2008 7:29:49 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: TexasRedeye

How about the bartenders/bar owners? Perhaps they need to arm up then. To protect their customers.


35 posted on 05/29/2008 7:31:46 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: ctdonath2

Tell that to the author of the article. I came to that conclusion in my original post that the “conviction” of the rampage shooter was done AT the scene by the gun carrying citizen.


36 posted on 05/29/2008 7:33:52 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: BootsOfEscaping

CCW is legal in bars in Nevada.


37 posted on 05/29/2008 8:40:54 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: TexasRedeye
All those different laws and ordinances must get awfully confusing. I think I would need a drink just for that alone, LOL!

The most different thing I had to get used to after moving to Nebraska from Colorado, is that they can sell wine and liquor in the grocery stores here in NE(except on Sunday, and they can only sell beer and wine after 12 noon then). In Colorado, the grocery store can only sell beer (and I believe it's still only 3.2%) - you have to go to a liquor store if you want wine or anything stronger.

38 posted on 05/29/2008 1:32:55 PM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: Ainast
No problem getting mine here in Texas! What's your "paper trail" look like? (J/K)

Seriously, though, you're not allowed to carry in a bar in Texas; it's illegal to carry in any establishment which makes over half of their income by selling alcoholic beverages. You can tell which ones these are, because they are mandated by the state to have a "51%" sign prominiently displayed.

I guess it's a good thing Nevada is a tad different. Of course, in my opinion, any "gun-free zone" is nothing more than a soft target; perhaps we need "designated carriers", or "bar marshalls" (like "air marshalls")?

:^D

39 posted on 05/29/2008 1:43:38 PM PDT by mil-vet (the difference between democrats & terrorists is their means of destroying freedom)
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To: newbie2008

In North Carolina you can’t CCW any place that derives more than 0% of their money from alcohol.
IOW not in Applebees, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, TGIF, etc.

Sux


40 posted on 05/29/2008 2:00:45 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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