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1 posted on 05/20/2008 9:31:32 PM PDT by RWR8189
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I do miss the days when we could be fairly sure that whichever parties’ candidate was elected, America would be defended. People can blast Joe all they want, but he is one of the few Dem reps that would.


2 posted on 05/20/2008 9:34:59 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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This guy was algore's running mate for the Dem nomination! Weird how things change in 8 years.
4 posted on 05/20/2008 9:39:38 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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These Communists are not your father’s Democrats.


6 posted on 05/20/2008 9:44:05 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Stalin, Mao, Castro, Obama.)
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Mr. Obama has said that in proposing this, he is following in the footsteps of Reagan and JFK. But Kennedy never met with Castro, and Reagan never met with Khomeini. And can anyone imagine Presidents Kennedy or Reagan sitting down unconditionally with Ahmadinejad or Chavez? I certainly cannot.

Obama does not even deserve to walk in the shadow of Reagan, or for that matter, JFK.

7 posted on 05/20/2008 9:44:33 PM PDT by rawhide
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What a great read! Thanks for posting it.


8 posted on 05/20/2008 9:45:19 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((( insert tagline here )))
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Mr. Lieberman is an Independent Democratic senator from Connecticut. This article is adapted from a speech he gave May 18 at a dinner hosted by Commentary magazine.

I wonder who applied the label of Independent Democratic to Joe. The 'crats will take his vote when they can get it, but ain't gunna give him spit in return.

9 posted on 05/20/2008 9:46:29 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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Someone should post that very cool and historic, pic ...


10 posted on 05/20/2008 9:55:12 PM PDT by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but theyÂ’re really after folding money.)
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“a party that was unafraid to make moral judgments about the world beyond our borders”

Well, Joe, if you can’t understand how an amoral self-serving victimology-baiting pro-infanticide power hungry socialist dominated democr@p party can fail to make the right “moral judgments,” then you aren’t nearly as smart as I thought you were.


12 posted on 05/20/2008 9:59:33 PM PDT by piytar
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Good article by Senator Lieberman...He wonders why today’s Democrats have turned away from the strong, principaled leadership of yesterday’s Democrats..

In part,this is a result of the dumbing down of America..Many do not know American History, nor the past struggles of generations past, and they have been brought up in an era of ‘me-too’ ‘feel good’ Constitutionally protected freedom. As a result, they have been led down a primrose path of pacifism, radical rebellion against all ‘authority’ and isolationism...In doing so, they have left the middle course of American politics which believes in a strong America, able to sustain itself and still provide aid and assistance to countries in distress..

It is a time of shame and humiliation for a once decent party that cared for the poor and the working class and provided many benefits to generations of Americans...Hopefully the majority of Americans will choose not to follow that devious and twisted path of shame in November and will vote for a strong America by voting Republican...


13 posted on 05/20/2008 10:00:27 PM PDT by billmor
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This needs to be repeated over and over again until it sink into as many voters minds a possible.........

“If a president ever embraced our worst enemies in this way, he would strengthen them and undermine our most steadfast allies.”


15 posted on 05/20/2008 10:11:33 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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This sounds like VP preparation by Joe Lieberman for John McCain.
16 posted on 05/20/2008 10:22:34 PM PDT by DB
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A strong rebuke of Obama from Joe Lieberman. He's disenchanted with the anti-American leftist and won't support him as the Democratic Party's presidential nominee. I agree with what he wrote for the Wall Street Journal. There was a time when the Democratic Party stood against America's enemies and championed freedom abroad and at home. No longer.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 05/20/2008 10:25:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I like Joe Leiberman as a person and principled American. I disagree on one area and that is global warming legislation that he co-writes and supports. Other then that, a true Patriot.


21 posted on 05/20/2008 10:35:11 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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Roosevelt was a tyrant socialist who took us 1/3 of the way to what his contemporaries Stalin and Mussolini brought to their countries. FDR put the final nails in the coffin of the Republic, and gave us the USSA that we live in today. He was an egomaniac phillanderer who ignored the legacy of Washington and ran for four terms. Unconscionable. While he did a good thing winning WW2, because he had surrounded himself with Communists and Useful Idiots he was played like a honky tonk piano by Stalin and sold our greatest allies in WW2, the Poles, into 50 years of totalitarian domination. For nothing. He failed to allow Patton, our greatest WW2 general (and we had a lot of them) to take Russia and end the red menace. The result of this idiotic policy was a generation (which I belong to) that grew up doing duck and cover drills. He was as close to a dicatator as I hope we ever see and made free Americans turn in their GOLD. Their money. He set the example that all commie gun banners most admire in this: not court orders, no legislation, just pure executive hubris. Idiot leftist's think Bush has damaged the Constitution. HA! FDR was everything Bush was not, and more.

Oh, yeah, his New Deal failed to end the depression too. He was an incompetent economic czar, despite all the attempts to paint him otherwise.

I have issues with Truman and Kennedy too, but there are precious few who are in FDR's category of evil egotism and totalitarian enablement. If you like the USSR, he's your man. He loved them, clearly.

22 posted on 05/20/2008 10:35:34 PM PDT by Jack Black
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Our band of so-called New Democrats was successful sooner than we imagined possible when, in 1992, Bill Clinton and Al Gore were elected.

You lost me right there, Joe. If you still think Bubba and Algore were anything but criminals and fellow travelers of the lefties you are writing about then you still don't get it.

28 posted on 05/20/2008 11:06:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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Does anyone have any info on Leibermans position when it was Rhawandans getting their extremities axed off?


30 posted on 05/20/2008 11:18:03 PM PDT by Bob J
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Good read, thanks for posting.


31 posted on 05/20/2008 11:31:06 PM PDT by 1035rep
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Thanks for posting this. Have to admire a man who puts his country first.


34 posted on 05/20/2008 11:37:25 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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How did the Democratic Party get here? How did the party of Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy drift so far from the foreign policy and national security principles and policies that were at the core of its identity and its purpose?

The main problem with today's socialist-minded Democratic Party isn't the Party but the people. The people unthinkingly created this Party like Dr. Frankenstein created his monster. The reason that the people did so is because ignorance of the Constitution and its history is epidemic. Widespread constitutional ignorance is evidenced by the following links.

http://tinyurl.com/npt6t
http://tinyurl.com/hehr8
And not only have the people given these scoundrels too much power, but the consequences of widespread constitutional ignorance persist. Because of their ignorance, the people are impotent to stop these crooks from partying the taxpayer's dollars down the toilet and from walking all over their personal freedoms, particularly their religious freedoms.

Today's problems with our messed up federal government got started in the days of FDR. While FDR's intentions for the people might have been good, FDR's approach to rescuing the people from their woes has ultimately wound up in disaster. More specifically, constitutional flunky FDR's crony justice supporters were naively willing to politically repeal the 10th A. protected powers of the states in order to give the green light to FDR's constitutionally unauthorized New Deal spending programs.

Indeed, Jefferson noted the tendency of the federal government to seize power in times of trouble.

"The system of the General Government is to seize all doubtful ground. We must join in the scramble, or get nothing. Where first occupancy is to give right, he who lies still loses all." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1797. ME 9:423
This post (<-click), while addressing taxes, provides more details as to how FDR unthinkingly robbed the states of their 10th A. protected powers in order to start his New Deal federal spending programs.

And this post (<-click) exposes how corrupt justices then began using FDR's politically correct license to ignore the 10th A. to unlawfully stifle traditional family values, including the USSC's scandalous legalization of abortion in Roe v. Wade. Note that the post first references two non-abortion cases in order to show Roe v. Wade in a different, troubling perspective.

In fact, consider that the states have the constitutional power (10th A.) to authorize public schools to lead non-mandatory (14th A.) classroom discussions on the pros and cons of evolution, creationism and ID, as examples, regardless that atheists, separatists, pagan-minded judges and the MSM are misleading the people to think that doing such things in public schools is unconstitutional.

The people need to reconnect with the Founder's division of federal and state government powers. The people then need to wise up to the major problems that, since the days of FDR's dirty politics, Congress has not only been operating outside the restraints of the federal Constitution, particularly where constitutionally unauthorized federal spending is concerned, but the USSC has wrongly been ignoring the 10th A. protected power of the states to address religious issues.

The bottom line is that the people need to get in the faces of judges, demanding that judges uphold their oaths to defend the 10th A. protected powers of the states to address religious issues - or get off the bench. The people also need to get in the faces of members of Congress, demanding a stop to constitutionally unauthorized federal spending while appropriately lowering federal taxes - or get out of DC.

Lincoln put it this way.

"We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." --Abraham Lincoln, Political debates between Lincoln and Douglas, 1858.

35 posted on 05/20/2008 11:43:26 PM PDT by Amendment10
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In the Balkans, for example, as President Clinton and his advisers slowly but surely came to recognize that American intervention, and only American intervention, could stop Slobodan Milosevic and his campaign of ethnic slaughter, Democratic attitudes about the use of military force in pursuit of our values and our security began to change.

This is a totally disgusting statement. We had no national interest in Serbia. We were lied to about the so-called genocide of Kosovars. Clintoon allowed Madeline Halfbright to convince him that using NATO, a strictly defensive military alliance by treaty, as an offensive force to invade a sovereign country to settle an internal dispute in favor of an outside element of agitators that our own State Dept. had not long before officially declared a terrorist organisation. All that without seeking UN approval and in fact in defiance of a UN resolution.

It set the precedent of using NATO as an unaccountable multi-national force to settle internal disputes in sovereign countries. We may see them here, manned by German, French and British troops, minus U.S. forces, to defend the poor oppressed Atzlan minority from retaliation for their terrorist acts and to defend the independence of their country.

Joe, your multi-culturalist side is showing through.

37 posted on 05/20/2008 11:53:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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