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This article -- and Mr. Hauser's graph -- should be required reading for every adult in this country, especially anyone planning to vote in any election this November. I'm sure Paul Krugman's head is exploding as he tries to take in the message in this tight little article.
1 posted on 05/20/2008 7:11:25 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Yeah but if everyone read it, how many would understand it.


2 posted on 05/20/2008 7:14:26 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds; Man50D

Interesting that this makes the light of day.


3 posted on 05/20/2008 7:17:54 AM PDT by Principled (Vaporize the "Divide and Conquer" taxes - Have everyone pay the same marginal rate!. NRST!)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
The problem is, tax policies such as Obama's don't even soak the rich. What high tax on income does is prevent the poor/middle class from becoming rich. I would call Obama's plan more accurately, "The Rich Prevention Act". The rich already have their money, it is the poor folk who need income to get rich. Under Obama's plan of taking the cap off SS and Medicare tax, plus rising the tax rates, he would move the effective tax rate on anything over $200K to about 66% once state taxes are factored in. That means to become a millionaire under Obama, the poor would have to actually make over $3 million.
7 posted on 05/20/2008 7:21:37 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Like so many things, it’s the issue the politicians want, not the solution.


8 posted on 05/20/2008 7:21:48 AM PDT by workerbee (Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them.)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Great article. This is what Republicans need to get back to... a message of lower taxes, less spending, BACKED UP BY THE STATISTICS.


11 posted on 05/20/2008 7:24:49 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Obama’s (and the Democrats’ in general) idea of “the rich” is anyone making over $40K/yr. The tax hikes will hurt people across most of the income spectrum. ...in a big way.


13 posted on 05/20/2008 7:27:42 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Required reading indeed. So, on average, we’re all working one day a week for the feds...way too much, I say.


14 posted on 05/20/2008 7:29:33 AM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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just as medieval science was poisoned by religious doctrine

A couple of fist-fights does not make a war. Medieval science—that is to say, science—was created by religious doctrine. That doctrine would be Christianity, building on the doctrines of Judaism and the philosophy of certain Greek geniuses such as Aristotle.

Briefly, in contrast to the pagan view that the world is run by capricious gods, the Christian view has always been that the universe is a place obedient to laws written by a loving God, and that truth is absolute and discoverable by man. There's a reason why the fathers of modern science, such as Copernicus (cosmology) and Mendel (genetics), were priests.

I'll read the jump, and trust that the rest of the article is better informed.

17 posted on 05/20/2008 7:35:22 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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24 posted on 05/20/2008 8:27:28 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Carbon Dioxide is a trace gas that is necessary for life on earth.)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

“They do not want to own your fortune, they want you to lose it; they do not want to succeed, they want you to fail; they do not want to live, they want you to die; they desire nothing, they hate existence ...”(Atlas Shrugged.Ayn Rand.)


35 posted on 05/20/2008 10:49:50 AM PDT by johnny reb
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"This ... should be required reading for every adult in this country...,"

Why yes, of COURSE this would be solidly comprehended by the airhead brainless oprah-worshipping soccer moms in my neighborhood:

"The interactions among the myriad participants in a tax system are as impossible to unravel as are those of the molecules in a gas, and the effects of tax policies are speculative and highly contentious."

I can just imagine the glazed look in their eyes. Apologies for the sarcasm, but many in redzones don't realize how bad it's gotten. Ever notice how dumbed down TV commercials have gotten? There's a reason.

37 posted on 05/20/2008 11:10:27 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (Stop calling them "liberals," they're Bolsheviks!)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
You can soak the rich if you tax wealth. Say, anyone with a net worth of over $50M--tax that.

I'm serious. It is the uber-wealthy who want to drive down the middle and upper class by taxing income, a tax they don't even feel. As soon as someone gets really rich, he starts wanting to make the middle class poor. Look at Soros, Bill Gates--they become "progressive" to gain status among their billionaire peerage.

It would appeal to my class resentment. I resent the heck out of meddling, condescending billionaires--and preachy nitwit Hollywood bigshots. Tax their wealth, since they don't really value it anyway.

43 posted on 05/20/2008 12:35:32 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Time for Conservatives to go Free Agent)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

I remember some discussion of this chart 10 years ago...anyway, the obvious objective is to increase GDP as 19.5% of a bigger GDP number creates more revenues. Will Obama’s plans to nationalize healthcare, curb free trade, confiscate profits from oil companies, and institute additional regulatory barriers grow GDP?


51 posted on 05/20/2008 2:15:29 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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"Raising taxes encourages taxpayers to shift, hide and underreport income. . . . Higher taxes reduce the incentives to work, produce, invest and save, thereby dampening overall economic activity and job creation."

Great read.

54 posted on 05/20/2008 3:52:53 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("a wee bit silly." -Lord Trimble on Hillary Clinton's claim of foreign policy "experience".)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Looks like there was good empirical reason for the "king's fifth" of old.

I think the top third of taxpayers should pay 25%, the middle third 15%, and the bottom third -- all of them -- a token payment of 5%.

I have come to regard Bush's elimination of all taxes for such a large proportion of the poor to be a mistake. They do not feel invested in the nation in the same way as the rest of us. To them, government is merely a giant pinata to be beaten until it showers them with free goodies. Much better to make it one modest line item on the family budget, to which they will pay close heed when pandering politicians promise them the moon.

-ccm

56 posted on 05/20/2008 6:41:39 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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Great article....thanks for posting it!

I’ve already quit my second job due to too much being lost in taxes.

Self-employment tax, income tax, AMT....screw them all.

Lower my tax rates, and I’ll work more....raise them? I’ll work less and enjoy life.


99 posted on 05/22/2008 7:50:13 PM PDT by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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