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To: gogov; Dasrafael; zhanli; indcons; Army Air Corps; Virginia Ridgerunner; AmericanInTokyo; ...
CNN World : Tibet : Chinas media blackout

Chinese FReeper says Dasrafael... "though the GFW really cause some troubles when we visit a foreign website(For example we cannot visit Wiki)."

Another Chinese FReeper, on this thread that we are on, says he cannot open a website about Tibet. (zhanli)

Empirical Analysis of Internet Filtering in China

Berkman Center for Internet & Society Harvard Law School

Our main testing examined 203,217 web sites drawn from categories other than sexually explicit content. We seeded this list of sites from multiple sources.

(snip)

Using the definition of "blocked" specified above, we found that a total of 18,931 of these sites (9.3%) were blocked in China. Given the large number of sites blocked, we have organized our listing of specific blocked pages into highlights -- some blocked pages that are well known or otherwise of possible interest -- followed by the full list. Where available, each page's listing includes its HTML title, its META keywords and description, and its Yahoo Directory and Google Directory classifications. These details are as retrieved in November 2002.

Blocked websites that begin with the letter 'T' Scroll down and see the long list of websites that begin with the word "tibet" then consider how many websites are about Tibet but begin with a different letter.

Now who looks uninformed? The real question is are you the biggest fool to ever post to me or are you a ChiCom troll?

Google 'china internet blocked'

55 posted on 05/27/2008 12:22:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TigersEye

Do you think the U.S. government filters the internet? I mean, there is no one monitoring net traffic of U.S. citizens, right?


59 posted on 05/27/2008 11:29:36 PM PDT by gogov
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To: TigersEye; laberphany; gogov; adcycn; 21twelve; KungFuBrad; indcons; Army Air Corps; ...

The provided link for Tibet can not open,but it doesn’t mean
i can’t find Tibet info in website.There are huge info about Tibet when i used Google to search.Wiki with the history of Tibet can open,and i have a screenshot for it.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tibet? ).
I also found more info on Tibet from website in English:such as “http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/13/opinion/13sperling.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin";
http://www.case.edu/affil/tibet/moreCenterInfo/internet_newsletter.htm?,
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0861546.html
http://cc.purdue.edu/~wtv/tibet/history.html
........................

The similar info could be obtained everywhere,and i just quoted several from the first page of google search results.

It’s meaningless to block info in such a time,with the info readily to get almost everywhere.And it’s also very ridiculous for anyone to believe we can be fooled because of the blocked info. The similar info is much,and not all the info can be blocked.We can always get the info we want.There is indeed censorship and blocks in the website of China,but it doesn’t mean we don’t know this,and we can be fooled.While i also know it will take some time for us to be more open.

It’s very boring to talk about this here.In fact,i have decided to keep silent the day before yesterday after the debate with “12”,but i will post this new again.If we all keep silent,someone will say:”see,you are blocked,you have no access to FR.You fools”.I will always be here,but learn to keep silent,and post when necessary.It’s meaningless to do this,someone don’t deserve it.

At the beginning,i have always expressed my different opinion about China.But the more i said,the more i have been suspicious.I am a civilian,and i work in a company,i am not an official,but i have been a “Chicom Troll” here finally.How terrible!If i continue to express my different voice,i would even be thought to be a spy in near future.I realized the reason why i am a “”Chicom Troll” here.It’s very naive that i want to change someone’s views of China with my different voice.It’s impossible. It’s very hard to change the born bias.

One should know much of others before criticising them and laughing at them,especially thinking in the others’ way would strengthen each other’s understanding.One can not comment others base to their own standard.It’s the same as “i compared the reaction of Katrina hurricane and caused somebody flied into a rage”.Different countries have different policies,and all are based to their own condition.It’s naive to criticise others when know one point,and don’t know another. I understand your opinion,as you are so-educated when you began to know the world,it’s dictatorial and unimaginary in your mind when some countries block the internet,and their people enjoy no free speech and parade rights.But for me it’s acceptable.Don’t say i am brainwashed.It’s about 60 years for Chinese to be a new independent country,with instability and poor people,and no advanced systems available.While it’s about 292 years for your side to become an advanced country.It’s also very hard at the beginning,wars/poors/,it always need much time to obtain a harmonious social systems.To be honest,there are many problmes in china at present,but it doesn’t mean it will be always like this.Mild changes and innovations haven taken place in China,and it will keep going,but it’s still a long term task.

It may be difficult for you to understand the above i wrote,as the ideation way is different from Chinese and Americans.For example,the place are always is from big to small in Chinese,small to big in English(Nanjing Rd,Beijing,China in US way,whie”China Beijing,Nanjing Rd” in Chinese way).And that’s the reason why we are always told”Pls post in English”.What we said is “Chinese-English”,and hard for you to comprehend it,try many times.Thanks.

P.S.I am female.


79 posted on 05/28/2008 9:37:24 PM PDT by zhanli
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