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Everything Must Go: The American Conservative Movement, 1980-2008
Human Events ^ | 5/17/08 | D. R. Tucker

Posted on 05/17/2008 2:03:48 AM PDT by MartinaMisc

It was fun while it lasted.

The guaranteed election of a non-conservative President on November 4th represents the end of the conservative movement in America. Neither Barack Obama nor John McCain stands for Reagan principles in any way, shape, manner or form—and after twenty years of non-conservative Presidents, it’s obvious that the Reagan era will never, ever return.

The conservative movement has been in the hospital for nearly two decades. Once George H. W. Bush—a good, moral man, but not a true conservative—entered the White House, conservative principles slowly but surely began to leave. Yes, he gave us a victory in the Gulf War and Clarence Thomas, but he also gave us a broken no-new-taxes promise and David Souter. Bush was more Rockefeller than Goldwater, during a time when America and the world needed more of the latter and less of the former.

Bill Clinton replaced Bush in 1993 and, during his eight years in office, stole certain conservative concepts (NAFTA, welfare reform) and destroyed others (judicial restraint, the rule of law). Clinton moved the country in a secular direction, helping to make the 1990s as culturally loose as the 1980s were culturally traditional. Clinton also seemed obsessed with, among other things, promoting the notion that the Reagan era was a fluke, and that (despite his famous 1996 claim) big government was a permanent reality.

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KEYWORDS: bush; clinton; conservatives; mccain; obama
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1 posted on 05/17/2008 2:03:49 AM PDT by MartinaMisc
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To: MartinaMisc

“end of the conservative movement in America.”

More like the end of America, as I knew it.
God only knows if or when it will come back.

I am now happy to be in a growing country that is free of PC crap and leftist.


2 posted on 05/17/2008 2:11:41 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: MartinaMisc
If McCain wins, the Republican Party will officially return to its pre-1980 status as a home of “moderate Republicanism”, and conservatives will be frozen out.

Cut. Print. Wrap.

3 posted on 05/17/2008 2:12:00 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Boo hoo. Every so often, history allows a movement to really assert itself. It either succeeds or it fails. I know I’m shedding no tears.


4 posted on 05/17/2008 2:17:25 AM PDT by RedWhitetAndBlue
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To: MartinaMisc

Mr. Tucker’s column is spot on except he is much too kind to the Bush’s. He doesn’t give them near enough of the credit they deserve for killing the conservative movement.


5 posted on 05/17/2008 2:28:17 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: MartinaMisc

Over!? Was it over when the Nazis bombed Pearl Harbor?


6 posted on 05/17/2008 2:41:21 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: MartinaMisc

From sub-link

“Conservatives will not be happy if McCain wins. However, they can at least take comfort in the fact that a McCain victory will discredit liberalism as well.”

If this turns out to be the case then how dead could the conservative movement be?


7 posted on 05/17/2008 2:45:14 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator
How would it discredit liberalism.

McCain Supports higher taxes for “the rich fat cats”
Supports Roe v. Wade
Opposes First Amendment
Loves Global Warming Hoax

Loves government involvement in health care only slightly less than the DEMS.

No matter who wins, a victory for Liberalism

8 posted on 05/17/2008 3:01:25 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: MartinaMisc
I have been frustrated for too long. It is a long time since I have posted anything. My split from the Republican agenda took place over the Foley scandal. I was disgusted when Limbaugh tried to deal with that scandal by insisting it was probably the pages themselves who were at fault. Limbaugh's debate with Michael J Fox was just as stupid and ugly. At the time, nobody stood up and told this man to shut up!

Conservatism, like any political movement, needs icons or spokespersons that symbolize or perfect the meaning of their shared beliefs (some lately have turned to calling this a brand). Unfortunately, For the main stream media and much of the public Limbaugh has become the primary symbol of what it means to be conservative today. Indeed, it is a role that he proclaims for himself. So, our political priority today is perceived as merely trying to mess with Democrats. Rather than having the goal of good governance we appear to be satisfied with making Democratic primaries chaotic. Because of the Limbaugh pulpit, it is supposed that we think that high gas prices are just fine. All the noise about high oil prices is merely the whining left looking for something to complain about. There is no economic downturn, no housing or mortgage crisis, employment is fine if everyone would just get out and hustle for themselves. We have the best health care system exactly the way that it is. The economy is fine, the problem is the negative attitude of left wing media. Global warming is a joke and enviornmental concerns are merely the hobby horse of the cappuccino crowd. If this is our icon we will be in the wilderness for a long time.

9 posted on 05/17/2008 3:06:58 AM PDT by spatso
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To: metesky

No, I think it was the Russians that bombed Pearl Harbor.


10 posted on 05/17/2008 3:07:55 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: spatso

DITTO


11 posted on 05/17/2008 3:11:30 AM PDT by DeaconRed (GOP- You Left Me.)
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To: bilhosty

I thought WE bombed Pearl Harbor (according to Rev. Jeremiah Wright).


12 posted on 05/17/2008 3:12:36 AM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: bilhosty
"No, I think it was the Russians that bombed Pearl Harbor."

I heard it was the Chinese

13 posted on 05/17/2008 3:15:14 AM PDT by DeaconRed (GOP- You Left Me.)
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To: equaviator
“Conservatives will not be happy if McCain wins. However, they can at least take comfort in the fact that a McCain victory will discredit liberalism as well.”

How? I don't see it. McCain's election can only come about with support of liberals. They will expect a return and they will get it with a truly liberal congress. The destruction of society will be blamed on McCain unless he vetoes every bill put before him.

14 posted on 05/17/2008 3:15:33 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: MartinaMisc

W. did to the Republican revolution of ‘94 what his father did to the Reagan revolution. no more country clubbers please. that being said politics is cultural. we need an urban-suburban consvatism that can interface with persons who cannot relate to the culture of the southern and small town contingent of consvatism. Then we can have leadership who can take both conservative factions and make them work together.


15 posted on 05/17/2008 3:15:43 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: Voter#537

Maybe it was the Poles they thought they were hitting the Philpinos.


16 posted on 05/17/2008 3:17:34 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: spatso

Meanwhile, nobody of any real influence is talking about small government. Lots of people want it, but there’s nobody in high level leadership to represent the idea.

I expect that voice to be unified and distilled over the next few years. There are mny Ron Paul signs still out on lawns, we’ll see what happens with those disaffected people. Hopefully small government advocates can coalesce into a force once again.


17 posted on 05/17/2008 3:20:12 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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To: rightwinggoth
“Originally from NOLA (left pre-Katrina), resettled in DC, currently in Boston. Caught between a rock and a hard place. :) I think Philadelphia will be next.”

Try Atlanta. you Will like the weather and you will find a great cultural world that will fulfill you goth and Urban needs as well as your Conservative sides.

18 posted on 05/17/2008 3:22:46 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: ovrtaxt

“Meanwhile, nobody of any real influence is talking about small government. Lots of people want it, but there’s nobody in high level leadership to represent the idea.”

We can’t talk abou tit we ahve no credibility on the subject. the only way it can be brought back into the world of debate is by winning an election (on other issues) and then doing it.


19 posted on 05/17/2008 3:24:20 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: MartinaMisc

“end of the conservative movement in America.”

Total tripe... like the “GOD is dead” bumper stickers of yesteryear. As long as I and Rush Limbaugh draw breath...

LLS


20 posted on 05/17/2008 3:36:07 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? NOT if jerk-face keeps running his liberal mouth!!!)
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