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1 posted on 05/16/2008 6:52:23 PM PDT by george76
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uh duh...

west virginia racists think obama’s a muslim.

but muslims want to behead obama because he converted to christianity.


2 posted on 05/16/2008 7:00:20 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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By Sha’ria law he’s muslim, but my problem with him is that he’s an incompetent ass. However, it’s too hard to create a portrait of ‘racism’ from a pallet containing nothing BUT incompetent ass, so the author obviously needed to stretch himself. This article should worry the Japanese. They’re a heckuvalot more pragmatic than most of us are so it probably does. That is a relief.


4 posted on 05/16/2008 7:06:36 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama's bus needs a lift kit just to clear all the bodies!)
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It turns out that most Muslims, like those in the country with the world's most Muslims (Indonesia), are wonderful people who respect Allah, respect their countrymen, abhor violence and extremism, and generally would make excellent next-door neighbors.

Until they behead you and stone your daughter.

6 posted on 05/16/2008 7:10:37 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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It turns out that most Muslims, like those in the country with the world's most Muslims (Indonesia), are wonderful people who respect Allah, respect their countrymen, abhor violence and extremism, and generally would make excellent next-door neighbors.

Maybe many are, but not all. He conveniently neglects to mention the Bali bombing.

11 posted on 05/16/2008 7:22:22 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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It would not necessarily be so horrible if this well-spoken senator from Illinois were in fact Muslim

Well, it would be horrible to then elect a liar, who has been saying all along that he believes in Christ. If that is a lie, everything is suspect.

12 posted on 05/16/2008 7:30:00 PM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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What if...he was a real Christian? (which he isn't)
18 posted on 05/16/2008 8:22:00 PM PDT by airborne (LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
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Re: ...are wonderful people who respect Allah, respect their countrymen, abhor violence and extremism, and generally would make excellent next-door neighbors.

Shall we add this to:

The check is in the mail.

Some of my best friends are...

21 posted on 05/16/2008 8:31:45 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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You know it’s really hard to tell, isn’t it? He was a Muslim for about 25 years, but now denies it. So, we really cannot believe anything he says.

Still seeking a baptismal certificate on Barack H. Obama.


23 posted on 05/16/2008 8:55:44 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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What if Barack Obama were a real Muslim ?

He is. 

25 posted on 05/16/2008 8:59:43 PM PDT by 1035rep
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"Very early in his life, Obama lived in Indonesia, before he returned to his native Hawaii, so he had met a lot of them."

The author wrote that statement as though Obama only knew muslims, but isn't related to a whole bunch of them...which he is.

Just a little more obfuscation. It's almost as if the guy has something to hide...

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26 posted on 05/16/2008 9:18:19 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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What if Barack Obama were a real Muslim ?

He can bald-face lie to furthur the cause of Islam.

27 posted on 05/16/2008 9:22:52 PM PDT by eyedigress
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What if Barack Obama were a real Muslim?

His religion may not now be Islam but it most definitely is Isflam. What he says is flam.

I spotted the flimflam in BJ almost twenty years ago before the electronic gun in the TV tube finished painting the first image of him. Obama is another one.

28 posted on 05/16/2008 9:29:59 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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If the American president were in fact a Muslim, you must understand that more than 1.2 billion of the world's Muslims would want to vote for him.

And conversely, if the American president were born a Muslim, but later says he is a Christian more than 1.2 billion of the world's Muslims would be honor bound to kill him as an apostate...I thought the democrats keep going on about uniters not dividers.

34 posted on 05/17/2008 3:36:06 AM PDT by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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What's wrong with this guy?!?

Would the Muslim world's new faith in us and our political system be such a bad thing?

And:

wonderful people who respect Allah

Is it just me or is this guy trying to sell us a boat load of carp? So, wonderful Muslims have "respect" for Allah, but will find "faith" in America once Obama becomes president....................

That's religious blasphemy.

38 posted on 05/17/2008 7:44:20 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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So, he is not a real Muslim.
He just has a real Muslim name.


39 posted on 05/17/2008 7:47:55 AM PDT by XR7
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It would be so bad because he is denying that he is or ever was a muslim. If there wasn’t anything wrong with it in regards to his campaign, why would be run from such a notion?

This is not to say that all muslims are bad. Those who choose to lie to the kufir are intellectually dishonest.

Just like someone who won’t salute the flag is someone who may also decide to drop all of the pomp and circumstance as President. Or perhaps work towards an end that is counter to the best for this nation.


43 posted on 05/17/2008 8:05:28 AM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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you must understand that more than 1.2 billion of the world's Muslims would want to vote for him.

YOU must understand that not all of the world's muslims are muslim by choice. Some live in theocracies that prohibit the practice of any other faith, that persecute those of any other faith, and that impose a death penalty on any muslim who converts to any other faith.

44 posted on 05/17/2008 8:07:03 AM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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They give degrees to just about anyone nowadays, don’t they?

“This politician is in fact a Christian. If you don’t believe this, just ask Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright...” (who is a former member of NOI).

The point is not whether Obama is or is not. I noticed a spokeswoman for ISNA issued a statement the other day proclaiming that they do not consider Obama a Muslim. Of course, they only issued the statement because they desperately want the dufus elected. The point is that we cannot give Islam any room or reason to grow. Obama, the Appeaser, would do just that. We have already had an exceedingly difficult time getting Republicans to learn the finer points of Islam and our own State Department has affiliated itself with pro-Hamas American Muslim groups. I don’t want to see the awareness, the gradual awakening, go backwards. That is precisely what would happen with Obama as POTUS.


50 posted on 05/17/2008 8:23:17 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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///most Muslims, like those in the country with the world's most Muslims (Indonesia), are wonderful people who respect Allah, respect their countrymen, abhor violence and extremism, and generally would make excellent next-door neighbors
...until they find out you have alcohol in the fridge, then they kill you and burn down your house. Thanks geo. :')
56 posted on 05/17/2008 9:27:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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Some Muslims (in name only), I would have no problem with.

Atatürk was fighting against the Islamists long before America knew they were a problem.


Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, 1st President of Turkey, In office: October 29, 1923 – November 10, 1938

"...... founder of the Republic of Turkey as well as its first President."

" An admirer of the Enlightenment, Atatürk sought to transform the ruins of the Ottoman Empire into a modern, democratic, secular, nation-state."

"Mustafa Kemal saw the consequences of fascist and communist doctrines in the 1920s and 1930s and rejected both."

"Islamic courts were closed and Islamic canon law was replaced with a secular civil code modeled after the Swiss Civil Code"

"Kemal wanted to solve the litteracy problem. Literate citizens, who comprised as little as 10% of the population, used the Ottoman Language written in Arabic script with Arabic and Persian loan vocabulary.[29] Dewey notes that roughly three years with rather strenuous methods were necessary to learn to read and write in Arabic script on the elementary level[29]. The creation of the new Turkish alphabet as a variant of the Latin alphabet was undertaken by the Language Commission (Turkish: Dil Encümeni) at the initiative of Kemal.[29] The Turkish alphabet was decreed on 24 May 1928."

"The Decree on dress targeted the religious insignia used outside times of worship. Kemal passed a series of laws beginning from 1923, especially the Hat Law of 1925 which introduced the use of Western style hats instead of the fez, and the Law Relating to Prohibited Garments of 1934, which emphasized the need to wear modern suits instead of antiquated religion-based clothing such as the veil and turban."

60 posted on 05/17/2008 2:04:35 PM PDT by Polybius
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