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Pit bull terriers attack, critically injure 3 year old in Fort Worth
Fort Worth Star Telegram ^ | May 15, 2008 | Susan Tallant

Posted on 05/15/2008 6:04:35 AM PDT by tuffydoodle

FORT WORTH -- A 3-year-old girl was in critical condition at Cook Children's Medical Center after being attacked by two pit bull terriers Wednesday night.

Police responded to the call shortly before 8 p.m. at a mobile home park in the 5000 block of N. DeSoto Court, Lt. Jimmy McCarthy said. The child's aunt, who was also injured, was taken to Harris Methodist Fort Worth Hospital, McCarthy said. Police declined to identify the woman.

The girl does not live where the attack took place, but was in the care of her aunt at the time, said Lynn Alexander, a neighbor at the Redwood Estates Mobile Home Park in southeast Fort Worth.

"This is unbelievable," said Leslie Cranston, a neighbor who lives across the street. "I walk my dog every day and never knew they even had dogs in that house."

The mobile home park manager said residents are required to sign a contract when they move in, and the rules are clear.

"They state, 'No pit bulls, Rottweilers, Dobermans, chows or other dangerous breeds,'" said Walter Winters, manager. "If we would have known, I would have given them a notice to get rid of the dogs or vacate the property."

The dogs were seized by the city's animal control department.

The Fort Worth Crimes Against Children Unit is investigating the incident.


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To: tuffydoodle
I apologize in advance if this question - and it is a question - p***es off some people but there is a nature versus nurture question embedded in this article:

Are pit bulls inevitably and irredeemably aggressive toward all small animals (nature)...OR ... do they become aggressive toward smaller animals only as a consequence of being deliberately trained to attack them (nurture)?

I use “inevitably and irredeemably” deliberately because even relatively placid dog and other animal species can have the odd member whose mainspring is wound just a little too tightly. But, if taken as a whole, the species is always aggressive towards small animals, children, etc., then it would be fair to characterize them as a dangerous animal and exclude them from contact (except under extremely controlled conditions) with human society. If the later is the case, that they must be trained to regard the small and helpless as objects to be attacked, then it is criminal behavior on the part of their human owners to trained them (or have them trained) to be this aggressive.

Over the past years, I've seen postings here on FR that seem to fall on one side or the other but this fundamental question gets clouded over in these discussions because of the understandable emotion evoked by these horrific attacks.

21 posted on 05/15/2008 7:07:22 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Being quite familiar with Goldens this SHOCKS me (that one once bit a kid): ) Mine will let the other dogs, kids, strangers...whomever...climb, smack, chomp etc...her and if you just pet her once she forgives all!!! (Precious is what she is!!!!)


22 posted on 05/15/2008 7:15:30 AM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: Red Badger

“A new neighbor just moved in to the house next door. They have a pit bull. “

My neighbors have pit bulls too.

I NEVER go outside without my cannister of pepper spray. Once one of the dogs got into my yard and came after me. I hit him right in the face with the spray. He turned and left immediately.

Got it from

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/


23 posted on 05/15/2008 7:16:04 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: Red Badger

Buy a can of self defense aerosol spray. When the wind is blowing towards the dog, give him a good sniff. Get him to associate you,m barking and the burning nose sensation together. No need to actually spray it in his eyes because his nose is sensitive enough to get the message. It should only take a few sniffs for him to understand.


24 posted on 05/15/2008 7:18:15 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Captain Rhino

Fatal pit bull attack on a toddler at Camp Lejeune (on-base) yesterday as well:

http://www.jdnews.com/news/attack_56604___article.html/dog_boy.html


25 posted on 05/15/2008 7:18:49 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: taxcontrol

LOL I should have read all the comments first.


26 posted on 05/15/2008 7:20:04 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Captain Rhino

Likely I would kill the dog and the owner at the first opportunity I had.


27 posted on 05/15/2008 7:25:17 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: eCSMaster; Red Badger

Unless they are CLEARLY well trained and socialized, I would poison some bacon and throw it over the fence.


28 posted on 05/15/2008 7:27:13 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy
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To: passionfruit

I think they belong to the aunt.


29 posted on 05/15/2008 7:29:13 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Red Badger

Ammonia in a squirt bottle works best. Make sure it isn’t ordinary househoold ammonia but the stronger stuff. I used to work as a land surveyor and dogs were sometimes a problem. I adapted a nasal spray bottle to work as a squirt bottle and filled it with VERY strong ammonia. The next dog that tried to get a piece of me got a faceful of that instead and simply fell to the ground and eventually crawled away, whimpering. The next day he didn’t want anything to do with me.


30 posted on 05/15/2008 7:29:59 AM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: Red Badger
I’m afraid he’ll jump that fence one day and take down a child. He’s really vicious

It may not be strictly legal, but I would have no moral qualms at all about tossing a "special meatball" over that fence.

31 posted on 05/15/2008 7:30:44 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Red Badger

Pit Bulls mirror their owners (or vice-versa). I’d be more afraid of them than the dogs.


32 posted on 05/15/2008 7:34:00 AM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: tuffydoodle

Source

33 posted on 05/15/2008 7:52:28 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: tuffydoodle
I own a pitt bull but I would never let this happen.

Not because my dog is fierce but because if something happens it is too late. Jaws like this are unforgiving.


34 posted on 05/15/2008 7:58:53 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: meandog

That and be prepared to face serious consequences if it accidentally ‘goes off’ on someone.

I love dogs, some breeds more than others. Every vet I’ve talked to about pit bulls says this breed needs to be fixed to greatly reduce the inherent tendencies of this breed to unexpectedly snap and do something like this. After sexual maturity, there is something in this breed’s wiring that makes them more prone to unexpectedly turn violent, nad you cannot foresee what will trigger it. It appears to be a hormonal thing, and spay/neuter can reduce it significantly.

Of course, this is also assuming they haven’t been bred to be violent and mean on purpose by the owner.


35 posted on 05/15/2008 9:01:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Phlap

That last pic: (knock-knock) Land Shark.


36 posted on 05/15/2008 9:03:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Red Badger

I hope you are armed when you go in the back yard. I had this problem years ago. Finally I just shot them one night and the problem ended. No one could prove I did it.


37 posted on 05/15/2008 10:03:10 AM PDT by packrat35 (If mccain is the answer-it must have been a REALLY stupid question)
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To: CurlyDave

That’s the way my dad used to cure this problem in the country.


38 posted on 05/15/2008 10:06:38 AM PDT by packrat35 (If mccain is the answer-it must have been a REALLY stupid question)
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To: packrat35

That “final solution” has not come to that point .......yet......


39 posted on 05/15/2008 10:10:20 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Phlap

That's what my new neighbor's dog looks like, just inches from me on the other side of my chain link fence (5 ft) as I work in my yard and garden...........

40 posted on 05/15/2008 10:13:10 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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