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The Truth About High Fructose Corn Syrup - The Science Behind the Sweetener
QSR Magazine ^ | May 2008 | Blair Chancey

Posted on 05/12/2008 10:22:56 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: SatinDoll
MSG is a poison. I am glad I am sensitive to it (migraines) so that I even KNOW about this. It is shocking how many "food" products are filled with it. I am so sorry I gave so many of them to my children, since the poisonous excitotoxins can have lasting effects on their nervous systems or chronic conditions later in life.

I see so many parents handing out goldfish crackers and the like to their babies, thinking that they are giving them some kind of food/snack, and not absolute poison.

99% of crackers, soups, packaged rice dishes, etc. contain it.

Here is a link giving some of the most known euphemisms, as MSG hides under MANY names. http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html

21 posted on 05/12/2008 11:36:30 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: VanShuyten

Other than what they ate in fruit and vegetables. From forever.


22 posted on 05/12/2008 11:36:54 PM PDT by Don W (To write with a broken pencil is pointless.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Thanks for the information.

Must be doing something right - I’ve never owned a deep fat fryer, mainly because I don’t like fried food. My kid buys his fried burritos at Taco Time, near the local high school (naturally). It is his once-a-week treat!


23 posted on 05/12/2008 11:38:26 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: matthew fuller
"Ellis: No. … Of course, you know that that abundance of cheap corn benefits the HFCS industry. The reason that industry is so successful is they’re able to sweeten things much less expensively than sugar. The reason they’re able to do that largely is because the raw material in HFCS is incredibly cheap. Our one acre of corn could have sweetened 57,000 cans of soda. We grew 10,000 pounds of corn and it took us about two hours of labor and a couple hundred dollars of input and that’s just incredible. That’s unbelievably cheap, and the reason it’s so cheap is that the subsidies system keeps everybody there growing corn. "

If that was from the economics section of the original article, that's the one I didn't read.

24 posted on 05/12/2008 11:39:00 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Don W
"I think that it is in the HFCS supporter’s court to show that there really is NO correlation between its product and our sugar related difficulties, since NONE of them were evident until HFCS took over from cane/beet sugar (sucrose). "

Are you saying that there were no evidence of diabetes before HFCS? Thats the way I read your statement above.

25 posted on 05/12/2008 11:45:09 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Alleged Rev./Marine Wright is BHO's "designated drunk" to hide Ayers/Dorhn.)
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To: neverdem
"If that was from the economics section of the original article, that's the one I didn't read. "

Yes, it was, "The Economics of Corn", page 6.

26 posted on 05/12/2008 11:51:32 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Alleged Rev./Marine Wright is BHO's "designated drunk" to hide Ayers/Dorhn.)
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To: matthew fuller

Corn no longer is cheap, as it’s being subsidized for ethanol production!


27 posted on 05/12/2008 11:51:52 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: Don W
The same as fructose. In fact, FRUits are a good source of FRUctose, and the amounts of natural sucrose in most edibles is pretty small. The point I was making is that most people got their sugars from basic fruits and vegetables, with a little honey, until industrial production of sugar started. Nowadays, virtually everything has sugar added to it. Sucrose is half fructose, half glucose.
28 posted on 05/12/2008 11:55:03 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: neverdem
Refined White (cane) sugar is sucrose. period. As I said, pure fructose is far better for you that any combination of sucrose/glucose and fructose, like corn syrop and white sugars made from sugar beets.

Cane sugar is the ultimate poison however.

Some white table sugars are as you say, contain both sucrose/glucose and fructose because the plant they are are refined from contain them as well. (beets, sweet potatoes, parsnips, onions).

Honey, tree fruits, melons, berries etc. also contain amounts of glucose/ sucrose, but are mostly fructose. Generally they are considered healthy, unless of course you over indulge, like anything else.

29 posted on 05/12/2008 11:55:19 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: fightinJAG
"Corn no longer is cheap, as it’s being subsidized for ethanol production! "

I agree with that, and in addition to that, the scarcity is possibly causing increases in the prices of other basic foods.

30 posted on 05/12/2008 11:55:58 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Alleged Rev./Marine Wright is BHO's "designated drunk" to hide Ayers/Dorhn.)
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To: VanShuyten
"Humans actually haven't consumed more than negligible amounts of raw sugar until the large, European-owned, slave-worked, sugar plantations of the 17th, 18th, and 19th century. "

Prior to that, tooth decay wasn't much of a problem either.

31 posted on 05/13/2008 12:03:20 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: matthew fuller

Another little article from Mr. Ian Cheney; I’ll look for the other guy in a second:

http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/01_07/comment.html

I’d like to ask Ian if he sold his corn crop by the “pound”...what an idiot.


32 posted on 05/13/2008 12:05:57 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: matthew fuller

I misspoke, as I meant that the sugar problems so evident today were much rarer when we DIDN’T use HFCS. Both diabetes and obesity were quite UNcommon then, yet today these unfortunate maladies are running rampant.

Thank you for bringing my erroneous wording to my attention. I really MUST remember to be far more clear in my opinions and assertions.

Thank you again, and good night.


33 posted on 05/13/2008 12:07:02 AM PDT by Don W (To write with a broken pencil is pointless.)
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To: Don W
To put it simply: the human race has consumed sugar (sucrose) for literally THOUSANDS of years, with only a few unfortunate souls being subject to the ravages of diabetes."

Uh, no. The consumed natural sugars (fructose), mostly from fruits. Cane sugar (sucrose) is a relatively "new" development which came along with sugar cane plantations. That's when problems began.

34 posted on 05/13/2008 12:07:10 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: matthew fuller
""Corn no longer is cheap, as it’s being subsidized for ethanol production! "

I agree with that, and in addition to that, the scarcity is possibly causing increases in the prices of other basic foods.

Then you'd be wrong. Two different types of corn are used for ethanol and human foods.

The corn used for ethanol is an animal feed type, which is indigestible for humans. The starch removed from that corn is then converted to sugars which are then used for ethanol. The rest of the corn goes on to be used for animal feed, so if anything, increased ethanol production also results in increased animal feed production.

The human variety of corn is an entirely different type of corn, and only represents less than 1% of corn grown in the USA. THAT corn is and continues to be the corn used to make corn syrop and other goods for human consumption.

While increased ethanol production MAY result in commodity price increases, the main factor in commodity price increases to date are the increased fuel and fertilizer costs. Fuel has doubled and fertilizer has tripled in costs over last year.

As far as commodity prices go, those minor increases have LITTLE effect on food prices. Take wheat prices for example. Wheat has gone from 4 - to about 8$ a bushel. One bushel of wheat makes about 90 loafs of bread. That's about 10 cents a loaf. Gee, something ELSE must be driving up the costs of bread.

In the 60's wheat sold for closer to 14 dollars a bushel. Yet bread only cost the consumer about 10 cents a loaf. Why is that? Must be something else that effects food prices, like the high costs of GASOLINE perhaps?

35 posted on 05/13/2008 12:20:57 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: matthew fuller
Actually, the only articles I found on the other guy who wrote that article (and produced the documentary) are not particularly offensive; he doesn't appear to be an eco-freak...more just a locally sourced food promoter (I have no problems with that).

Frankly, I have no problem with folks questioning the use of HFCS; I do have a problem with the opinions of a little Yale "greenie" being given any type of serious consideration.

The idea that they grew 10,000 pounds (LOL) of corn, and are considered "experts" is simply offensive.

36 posted on 05/13/2008 12:21:03 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: neverdem

I’m curious . . . what about maple syrup? What kind of sugar is that? (I just bought a bottle — had a crazving for pancakes.)


37 posted on 05/13/2008 12:24:55 AM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
MSG is a simple salt, used as a preservative

Autolyzed, hydrolyzed, glutamate, glutamic acid, hydrolyzed, autolyzed HIDDEN SOURCES OF PROCESSED FREE GLUTAMIC ACID (MSG) NAMES OF INGREDIENTS THAT CONTAIN ENOUGH MSG TO SERVE AS COMMON MSG-REACTION TRIGGERS
The MSG-reaction is a reaction to free glutamic acid that occurs in food as a consequence of manufacture. MSG-sensitive people do not react to protein (which contains bound glutamic acid) or any of the minute amounts of free glutamic acid that might be found in unadulterated, unfermented, food.

38 posted on 05/13/2008 12:27:15 AM PDT by x_plus_one ("let them eat cake, drive small electric cars and take the bus")
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To: fightinJAG
"Corn no longer is cheap, as it’s being subsidized for ethanol production!"

That comment defies logic.

If it's being subsidized, then it would be even cheaper.

Subsidies cause commodity prices to remain artificially low. I'd rather commodity prices reflect the actual cost plus profit of growing a crop and stop this government give away of billions of taxpayers dollars to supply the markets (and thus oil rich turd world countries) with cheap commodities.

39 posted on 05/13/2008 12:31:45 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: x_plus_one

Mono-sodium glutamate.

I never said it wasn’t a processed additive, only that it’s made from a simple -single- salt. The reason for this is because it tastes less salty, not that it is any better or good for you.


40 posted on 05/13/2008 12:35:05 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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