Posted on 05/12/2008 11:51:13 AM PDT by kingattax
(CNN) -- Kicking off a week-long push seen as outreach to independent and Democratic voters in crucial swing states, John McCain on Monday will deliver a speech outlining his vision for combating global warming.
"We stand warned by serious and credible scientists across the world that time is short and the dangers are great," McCain will say in Portland, Oregon, according to prepared remarks. "The most relevant question now is whether our own government is equal to the challenge."
McCain's commitment to fight global warming puts him at odds with some Republicans in Congress and with the Bush administration, which has not made climate change a top priority.
McCain's stance on carbon emissions places him closer on the environmental spectrum to Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
In his speech, the Arizona senator will propose capping carbon emissions incrementally, with the goal of returning to 1990 emission levels by the year 2020 using a cap-and-trade program.
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Wow. Just wow.
Here Lies The Republic.
We Couldn't Keep It.
What gets me is they want to combat gw, we have to “act now” but they don’t have a clue as to what we would do about it, other than sucking up more money for the government machine. Just like the oil crisis, the only thing they can think to do about it is tax it.
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Weeelll, ah don’t think... uh... ah think those deniers are in such a tiny, tiny minority naow...
Here lies the FIRST Republic.
Yeah man, you get it don't you. I say we also embrace abortion, affirmative action, high taxes for 'the rich', do everything short of nationalizing 'big oil', cut the military, grow the government, stop spying on terrorists, etc, and remove "it as an issue for the democrats"
Yeah, you get it!
Did McCain mention at what temp he wants the earth to remain?
Will reverse psychology work, as consservatives see this as another deal to be made with the devil?
“Although Im not a big fan of McCains, I love the fact that he has embraced Global Warming and thus has removed it as an issue for the democrats.”
The question is why are so many FReepers politically inept?
Either he’s been hoaxed or he’s a hoaxster. Sorry, John. There ain’t no way you’ll get my vote.
We conservatives must choose which fights are worth fighting.
Is global warming (GW) total bunk? Pretty much.
Have humans been good stewards of our God given resources? Not really. There is lots of room for improvement.
The public arena, (foolishly) has bought into the idea the GW is real and that it is partially a man made problem.
The McCain team has made a decision that they don’t want to lose this election because they’re on the “unpopular” side of Global Warming. They are intentionally trying to take this issue/advantage away from the democrats.
And that, my FRiends, is what you call brilliant political strategy.
The fight over GW isn’t worth fighting.
McCain has indicated that he would back justices like Alito and Roberts. Personally I’d prefer Scalia and Thomas, but I’m not in a position where I can be too choosy.
We know that Obama will back justices like JP Stevens and RB Ginsburg. And that is totally unacceptable.
The choice is clear. McCain in ‘08.
That’s being overly polite.
Wrong question. Here is the correct one.
Why are a few FReepers embracing 'finger-in-the-wind' politics versus embracing the truth and using that as a political tool.
The truth will set you free, not pandering to liberal idiots.
I grew up in Louisiana so I have a better name for it, POPULISM.
Populism is one of the worst forms of Democracy to ever rear it's ugly head. It is the foundation for tyrany. Once people start voting for you for all the wrong reasons, it's over.
"The fight over GW isnt worth fighting."
Not one inch should ever be given to a liberal. Not one damned inch! Those willing to cede any issue to liberals should get the hell out of the way and let fighters take over the game, unlike the limp-wristed, purse-swinging, bed-wetters who have run the RNC since the death of Lee Atwater.
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Hope Bob Barr runs ... I already spent my GOP donations ... on vacation travel, since gas is so expensive I have nothing left for Juan.
The hatefest between Hillery and Obama might put McCain in the White House but I fear a veto proof congress of liberal DemocRATs.
It could be a rough four years!
That is the question!
Perfect example:
Maelstorm at #16 wrote...”He (McCain) should stick to what works for him, fiscal responsibility, a strong military, and a strong economy.”
...And that will get McCain about 40% of the popular vote.
McCain is running this race to win. Although I’m not a big McCain fan, I’ve been very impressed with the campaign he has waged thus far.
Even if Obama wins Illinois, New York, and California by 75%, McCain could still win electorally.
Cap and trade lets the market decide the cheapest way to reduce CO2. It is not pollution as many here have explained, only implicated in warming. Reductions in CO2 will be modest and those reductions will do nothing to change the warming. The junkscience site has a good page on this, it would take trillions to cool the world by 1 degree using the assumptions from the models. The Euros have been practicing it since 2005, and have netted good feelings and some nice government revenue, but no reductions in CO2.
I'll give it a shot:
The government first sells licenses (yay--more "revenue" to fund bigger government! /s)I'm sure I forgot something. The government then sets up a major bureaucracy to administer such trading scheme.
The govenrment then sets up a slew of regulations and hires a slew of regulators to monitor, penalize, and enforce said regulations.
After buying their license (allowing it to exist and produce), U.S. businesses are given a MANDATORY cap, based on junk science, as to how much "greenhouse gas" they are permitted to emit.
If they find themselves unable to operate under said emission limit, they will be required to purchase a "carbon credit" from a non-emitter or pay a penalty.
Most businesses involved in the scheme fall into two categories categories 1) those trying to actually produce something useful (the emitters) or 2) those who have been gaming the system collecting assets that qualify for "carbon credits." Many of these assets are not in the U.S.--it could be a otherwise-useless piece of land in some third-world country that they promise not to develop.
Carbon "markets" (similar to a NYSE) are established to facilitate the trading of "carbon credits." The Chicago Climate Exchange has been established to do this already, created by Michael Milken cohort Richard Sandor who has been helping the Al Gore's and John McCain's of the world push this scam in the United States. These exchanges will create jobs for "traders" -- the traders and exchanges raking in trillions for doing nothing more than buying and selling hot air.
U.S. businesses will now be asked to compete in a global market which they will be unable to do. They will pay extoriton money (buying carbon credits) making domestic products more expensive until it becomes obvious they can no longer be competitive. The U.S. economy will suffer and consumers, having trouble paying for the very basics, will be buying products from third-world hell-holes who aren't subject to the same strict greenhouse gas limits.
Bottom line: This is the greatest wealth-distribution scheme ever conceived.
Does this work equally as well for you?
I love the fact that he has embracedGlobal WarmingSocialism and thus has removed it as an issue for the democrats.
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