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To: DoughtyOne
Read my tagline. The POP will come when some some of the more delusional pull their heads out of their nether regions. Read the Report of the Select Committee, it it readily available online. I just skimmed the contents and it was pretty much as I remembered. Add Chuck Robb to the Vietnam vets on that committee.

The committee members, including John McCain, would have loved nothing better than to have found and brought home one or ten or a hundred of our missing. They had the resources of the State Department, the Defense Department, the CIA and the DIA at their disposal as well as their own and yet they could find no evidence of living POW's. This wasn't John McCain, it was the entire committee and finally, the entire Senate.

The POW issue as a scam for money making was well known and it wasn't just the families and the Veteran organizations who were taken. It was so pervasive that it became a focus of the Committee. There conclusion was that there was lots of money going to the fundraisers and very little going to the actual benefit of finding POW's or benefiting their families. If you dropped a twenty or a hundred into a POW "charity", chances are you bought a new boat for a fundraiser.

In case you have forgotten, we lost that war. We don't get to prosecute for war crimes or anything else. There were without doubt countless barbarities and atrocities that will have to wait for eternal justice.

Like Bob Kerrey said, "No one wanted to be on that Committee". It was a thankless task and, regardless of the outcome, the conclusions were going to be disputed. Tem members did the best that they could and came to an open, honest and reasonable conclusion. For the booger-eaters of the lunatic fringe to attack John McCain for having served in that contentious environment is delusional.

Delusional and insane.

77 posted on 06/04/2008 1:16:39 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Read my tagline. The POP will come when some some of the more delusional pull their heads out of their nether regions. Read the Report of the Select Committee, it it readily available online. I just skimmed the contents and it was pretty much as I remembered. Add Chuck Robb to the Vietnam vets on that committee.  Thanks for the suggestion.  I wouldn't mind reading it.  It's not going to change my mind, because people known to be alive on the ground in Vietnam in good health, were never accounted for.

All the efforts in the world couldn't find the known missing POWs that had been seen alive.  I don't fault the committee for not finding them.  I fault the committee for abandoning them.  Without a physical body dead or alive, and without a full accounting for the POW known to have been alive one of two things should have taken place.

Vietnam should have been demanded to produce bodies or an accounting, or they should have been taken to a war crimes tribunal and forced to make some accounting, or face war crimes charges.  Our illustrious leaders instead opted for the dreaded nomalized relations, a fate worse than death.  It would be funny if this weren't so serious and disgusting.

The committee members, including John McCain, would have loved nothing better than to have found and brought home one or ten or a hundred of our missing. They had the resources of the State Department, the Defense Department, the CIA and the DIA at their disposal as well as their own and yet they could find no evidence of living POW's. This wasn't John McCain, it was the entire committee and finally, the entire Senate.  For the hard of listening, I'm going to say this again.  MEN KNOWN TO BE ALIVE ON THE GROUND IN VIETNAM WERE NEVER ACCOUNTED FOR.  Is that clear enough, or do I need to repeat it another fifty times?  BTW, the supposed MIA sheisters were not the ones who made the observation.  Our POWs did.

Just because the government made a concerted effort to find these men and get a full accounting, it doesn't mean that Vietnam should be off the hook.  We know the men were alive, so provide an accounting for them or face war crimes related charges.  What's so difficult to understand about that?  Do you think for one minute we wouldn't be dragged into a war crimes tribunal if prisoners we had in custody were never heard from again?  Why is Vietnam a special case?

The POW issue as a scam for money making was well known and it wasn't just the families and the Veteran organizations who were taken.  I'll bet you think this is new ground right?  You've said this in just about every post you have made to me on this thread.  I have ignored you, because I am not arguing in defense of the scamers.  I am arging in defense of the families whose relatives had been seen alive on the ground in Vietnam.  You don't seem to be able to differentiate between the two.  You do know the difference between a scamer and a veteran who has testified to something he has witnessed right?

It was so pervasive that it became a focus of the Committee.  That's nice... totally irrelevant, but nice.

There conclusion was that there was lots of money going to the fundraisers and very little going to the actual benefit of finding POW's or benefiting their families. If you dropped a twenty or a hundred into a POW "charity", chances are you bought a new boat for a fundraiser.  That makes for a very nice story.  Yawn.  You still haven't addressed the actual sightings, and why those folks were not accounted for when they never showed up.  Do you have an answer to this, or are you going to continue to ignore the subject like the Senate committee did?

In case you have forgotten, we lost that war. We don't get to prosecute for war crimes or anything else. There were without doubt countless barbarities and atrocities that will have to wait for eternal justice.  Isn't that convenient.  What do you mean we don't get to prosectue for war crimes?  If war crimes were committed, we certainly can raise the issue.  What convinces you otherwised?

Like Bob Kerrey said, "No one wanted to be on that Committee". It was a thankless task and, regardless of the outcome, the conclusions were going to be disputed. Tem members did the best that they could and came to an open, honest and reasonable conclusion. For the booger-eaters of the lunatic fringe to attack John McCain for having served in that contentious environment is delusional. 
Delusional and insane.  Yep, atta boy.  Anyone who wants a full accounting for the men seen alive in Vietnam in reasoned health, but were never returned home or accounted for, are booger eaters, lunatic fringe, delusional or just insane.

LOL, thanks for the comments.  Hey, why don't you post another reply to me placing all the blame for this on scamers, instead of Vietnam, and ignore the live POW sightings once again.

79 posted on 06/04/2008 1:43:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ooo what's that terrible smell? Oh, I stepped in a big pile of 'lesser of two evils'. Careful...)
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