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1 posted on 05/07/2008 9:39:47 PM PDT by The_Republican
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Obama will get the nomination and lose dramatically in November. McCain will be a one term president and Hillary will be back in 2012 telling everybody they should have nominated her in ‘08 instead of Obama an I told you so moment).


2 posted on 05/07/2008 9:44:18 PM PDT by umgud (this tagline is an excerpt)
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You go girl! All the way to Denver!

I never thought I would find myself rooting for Billary. I think I’ll go shower now.


5 posted on 05/07/2008 9:51:48 PM PDT by red state girl (never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never)
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Please God, make her go away—the mute button on my remote is wearing out.


6 posted on 05/07/2008 9:52:17 PM PDT by pankot
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Osama bin Obama cares and took let the MSM tell you otherwise. Every minute Hillary stays in the race, the less time the media gets to attack McCain. The more time Hillary uses in the primaries, the less vacation time the media will have will their families. (AHHHH) I hope the battle lasts until the convention. Remember, there is no law or rule in the democrat party that states she HAS to quit. Go Hillary GO.
8 posted on 05/07/2008 9:55:54 PM PDT by antiunion person (President McCain, what a disgusting phrase.)
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Call me a dreamer but I would love to see rejected Billary run as an Independent.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 10:01:01 PM PDT by red state girl (never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never)
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GO HILLARY! YOU GO GIRL!


12 posted on 05/07/2008 10:01:43 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Bipartisanship: Two wolves and the American people deciding what's for dinner)
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Clinton’s campaign set out Wednesday with a diminished goal:>>>>>> To show that she’s alive. <<<

My biggest fear...shes still alive..

13 posted on 05/07/2008 10:03:21 PM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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I swear, the way everyone here counts Obama out is dismaying.

While he is certainly more beatable than Hillary, he will be a very formidable opponent in November.

If McCain can pull it out - and I have no real faith that he will - it will be by one or two states max.

Obama is going to swamp him in donations, support, and positive media attention.

McCain will be treated like dirt and be painted as another very old white man who is nothing more than a Bush clone, and a furthering of the same old tired and failed Republican policies.

Voters will flock to Obama.

14 posted on 05/07/2008 10:04:41 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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“As Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton made a last-minute trip to West Virginia and declared her intent to stay in the race, aides to Sen. Barack Obama signaled Wednesday that he would move towards a general election strategy over the next month. “

Big Mistake for Obooma. The beast works best when nobody is looking.

15 posted on 05/07/2008 10:08:15 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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We all hear how "close" the Democratic Primaries are and how much Obama is so dominant in the hearts and minds of the average everyday Democratic voter.

Well if we looked at the Obama v. Clinton match-up in terms of the electoral college - we'd see a very different outlook.

Presidential elections are won or lost based on Electoral College votes, not based on "delegates", "superdelegates", party caucuses or total popular vote.

States that hold Primary Elections allow the VOTERS to choose their candidate, as opposed to states that hold caucuses in which voters don't go to the polls but rather Party-insiders do the voting.

And so to get a clearer picture of the Democratic outlook - I looked through the lens of Primary Election results only and then counted those results in terms of Electoral Votes for each of those states to see whether Obama or Clinton would have an easier time gaining the 270 necessary Electoral Votes to become President.

And so by tallying up the States won in the Primary Elections (where voters decide the result, not party-insiders) by Obama and Clinton based on their Electoral College votes - here are the results:

STATE - Electoral Votes (Primary Election Winner)
Alabama - 9 (Obama )
Connecticut - 7 (Obama )
Delaware - 3 (Obama )
District Of Columbia - 3 (Obama )
Georgia - 15 (Obama )
Illinois - 21 (Obama )
Louisiana - 9 (Obama )
Maryland - 10 (Obama )
Mississippi - 6 (Obama )
Missouri - 11 (Obama )
North Carolina - 15 (Obama )
South Carolina - 8 (Obama )
Utah - 5 (Obama )
Vermont - 3 (Obama )
Virginia - 13 (Obama )
Wisconsin - 10 (Obama )
148 Primary Electoral Votes For Obama.

Arizona - 10 (Clinton )
Arkansas - 6 (Clinton )
California - 55 (Clinton )
Florida - 27 (Clinton )
Indiana - 11 (Clinton )
Massachusetts - 12 (Clinton )
Michigan - 17 (Clinton )
New Hampshire - 4 (Clinton )
New Jersey - 15 (Clinton )
New Mexico - 5 (Clinton )
New York - 31 (Clinton )
Ohio - 20 (Clinton )
Oklahoma - 7 (Clinton )
Pennsylvania - 21 (Clinton )
Rhode Island - 4 (Clinton )
Tennessee - 11 (Clinton )
Texas - 34 (Clinton )
290 Primary Electoral votes For Clinton.

Woah! Looks like Clinton has a HUGE lead when it comes to where it counts state-by-state - 1) Actual voters and 2) Electoral Count.

Oh - well - what about the Caucus states. Shirley all the states won by Obama would make a big difference wouldn't it?

Okay - let's add in the Caucus states and add up those Electoral College Votes too. However - an odd thing happened in Texas, they had a Primary AND a Caucus - and the results were split between Obama and Clinton, Clinton won the Primary and Obama won the Caucus. So to be fair, I'll give EACH of them the full amount of Texas Electoral Votes:

STATE - Electoral Votes (Caucus Election Winner)
Alaska - 3 (Obama )
Colorado - 9 (Obama )
Hawaii - 4 (Obama )
Idaho - 4 (Obama )
Iowa - 7 (Obama )
Kansas - 6 (Obama )
Maine - 4 (Obama )
Minnesota - 10 (Obama )
Nebraska - 5 (Obama )
North Dakota - 3 (Obama )
Texas - 34 (Obama )
Washington - 11 (Obama )
Wyoming - 3 (Obama )
103 Caucus Electoral Votes For Obama.

Nevada - 5 (Clinton)
5 Caucus Electoral Votes For Clinton.

And so what's the grand total - in terms of Electoral Votes for each?

Clinton: 295 Total Electoral Votes
Obama: 251 Total Electoral Votes

* remember, Texas is counted once for each candidate.

Personally - I actually happen to think the State Primary Election results are FAR more telling than the party-insider polls done for State Caucus elections.

ETA: And if you look just at "swing" states who had Primary Elections, those states that are going to be the main battlegrounds and ususally determine the outcome of the elections:

Ohio - 20 (Clinton )
Pennsylvania - 21 (Clinton )
Florida - 27 (Clinton )
New Hampshire - 4 (Clinton )
Wisconsin - 10 (Obama )


Bottomline: Don't quit Hill! You can still win this!! LOL!



21 posted on 05/07/2008 10:50:55 PM PDT by The_Macallan
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Clinton’s New York colleague Sen. Charles Schumer declined to offer a vote of confidence when asked if Clinton should stay in the race.

“It's her decision to make and I'll accept what decision she makes,” he said.

Chuckie has always been a guy you can count on when the going gets tough.... /sarcasm

23 posted on 05/08/2008 12:29:57 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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25 posted on 05/08/2008 2:46:07 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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