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To: Celebratelife008

Good question -

Answers and related points -

- I am against illegal immigration. Of course we should do something about that.

- Even if there were a full stop to illegal immigration we would still have nearly all the situation you worry about, due to established demographic trends in the US SouthWest.

- The difference between the US and Serbia/Kosovo is the nature of American citizenship and identity, and to a great degree also the nature of Mexican identity. Europe is full of tribal nations, the Serbs and Albanians are definitely in that category. American identity is not this tribal thing. Unless things are carried on very badly these people of Mexican origin will feel more American than Mexican, like the older population is American and not whatever European tribe they came from.

Mexico is also a mixed place, which does not in fact have a strong national identity. The whole “la raza” business, which was part of Mexican nationalist propaganda in Mexico proper decades before it was ever parroted by idiots in the US, was a rather pathetic attempt to drum up Mexican nationalist feeling in Mexico. It didn’t work.

- On a more practical level, Kosovo-Albanians do not see that Serbia has much to offer them in terms of economic opportunity or scope for advancement. They can credibly think they can do better for themselves.

Mexicans in America ? Precisely the opposite. The entire point of being here and not there has nothing to do with the land in itself and everything to do with being part of US society. Thats where the jobs are, thats where the livelihood is. Reuniting with Mexico is stupid, Mexico is the pit they escaped, the last thing they want is to return to the pit.

There are idiots (there are always idiots) who claim otherwise. But this is not exactly a widespread idea. The Mexican-American consensus is that it is an idiotic idea.

- Unlike the Serbians, America has the ability to assimilate these people, because it is a society designed for assimilation. Albanians can’t become Serbs, not least because the Serbs won’t let them. But America can and has let Mexicans become Americans. We need to get rid of any barrier in the way of that. Among them is any remaining bit of tribalism that keeps Mexicans from fully assimilating, and any bit of “multicultural” nonsense from the other end.


116 posted on 05/10/2008 10:25:21 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

Serbia was and still remains the most diversly populated region of the former Yugoslavia...your statements regarding the ‘tribal’ Serbs are not based in fact, but in your own quite obvious anti-Serb bias.


119 posted on 05/11/2008 3:38:38 PM PDT by Celebratelife008
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To: buwaya; joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ...
Albanians can’t become Serbs, not least because the Serbs won’t let them.

Typical nonsense that we've come to expect in support of the Jihadists and which does nothing to explain nor justify the terror campaign against the legal Serb, Roma, and Jewish residents waged by the illegal Albanian immigrants since the 1980's.

The Albanians began treating each of these groups as second-class citizens in their own country, even refusing to teach college-level courses in Serbo-Croatian, the official language of Yugoslavia at the time.

All of this is being replayed today in Aztlan and Americans are being stupid beyond belief if they support the policies in Kosovo that will one day be used against the United States.

120 posted on 05/11/2008 3:40:56 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: buwaya
Hey Bozo—leave off the tribal stuff — you are either repeating some college apologist PC stuff or are self deluding again.

You are comparing that which cannot be compared. Kosovo is populated by MUSLIM Albanians who will never accept living in a nation run by a majority of Christians whether serb or otherwise. Muslims invade infiltrate and take over —that is their modus operandi and their mission..history proves it and if that is not enough so does their little green book. The neo con formula of democratization through expansion of corporate capitalism does not apply to these creatures.

Just as with other utopian ideologies the Mohamedans are expansionist and once they infiltrate they take over. That is the nature of the ideology is Mohamed. As for Muslims living here or other non muslim nations they get preached to by imamis funded by SA who tell them that they live under the infidel and they will prevail thusly——There are 3 main ways in which a state or country can become Daar ul-Islam (the domain of Islam):

The majority of its citizens embrace Islam and implement the Sharia’ah on their own accord
A group of Muslims rise, overthrow the government and implement the Sharia’ah by force (coup)
Islamic states carry out Jihad as foreign policy and remove the government

If that takes too much time they can resort to this strategy - acc. to the “Mao” of the muslim world:

“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males ... to prepare themselves for the conquest of countries...so that Islam is obeyed everywhere in the world.”

So one by one the dominoes fall and Kosovo has become another beachhead into the west. Get real and stop deluding yourself with nonsense. Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks Assryians, Armenians and others have paid and are still paying dearly for their persistance in keeping their faith alive...those like you are an insult to that faith and persistence.

123 posted on 05/11/2008 7:11:08 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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