Posted on 05/07/2008 6:09:50 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
A Knoxville man shot and killed a Pittsburgh police dog Tuesday before the canine's handler returned fire, killing the man in what city police Chief Nate Harper called "an unfortunate" but justifiable action. The shooting outraged and angered the family of the 19-year-old man, Justin Jackson. He was pronounced dead by a passing paramedic almost immediately after the shooting that occurred at 6:53 p.m. in front of the UPMC facility on Arlington Avenue on the border of Knoxville and Mt. Oliver.
Harper said the dog's handler ordered the canine -- a 6-year-old German shepherd named Aulf -- to attack after Jackson pulled a gun from under his shirt. Both the officer, an eight-year-veteran Harper did not identify, and Jackson fired several shots, the chief said.
"They shot my son in the head. The officer told me, 'Our dog got shot so we shot him.' They killed my son over a dog," said Donald James Jackson of the West End.
"My 19-year-old son is lying there dead, shot in the head, execution-style. My son's brains are laying on the street. This is crazy. I'm going to do whatever I have to do, file charges against the officers, for my son. It's terrible, the mentality they have," Jackson said as he tried to comfort his wife.
"We are not going to let them get away with this!" Anna Jackson screamed. "They will pay for killing my son. They are going to pay for shooting my son over a dog!"
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Let’s go back before that. The police sicced the dog on him after he complied with their request. Did he ask the dog to come at him?
Yep. And many FReepers would be cheering his death and saying that his words must have been a threat.
He was put into a Catch-22.
What did those guys do next in their lives?
And why do you think my questioning the status of these particular cops (and their supervisors) somehow trashes the NG?
Of course it doesn't.
That's why our cops can stay in shape riding bicycles.
Of course, that's not what the chief says happened.
The gun was already out--that's the reason they are giving for siccing the dog on him.
I’m very much in favor of only killing that which you intend to eat.
Not true. He showed his hands when requested, according to the police chief's earlier statements.
I bet he did not have a permit for the gun either
Why should a citizen be required to have a permit to carry a weapon? Or aren't we going to hear that argument this time around...?
I think its pretty trashing. I think it pretty much states that you distrust/hate, whatever, anybody who puts on a uniform and protects and serves be it nationally or locally. On a conservative site you really want to defend the prisoners' of Abu Ghraib and a gang banger in one fell swoop...wow...like I said before, I never cease to be surprised here.
He packed heat to protect his dogs from thieves.
However, to protect his pistol he stuffed it in his back waist under his jacket..
Folks in the office used to come in with great ideas of where he should relocate in the DC area where he'd be safer. He said he wasn't going to let the bums run him out.
Still, if he'd been stopped by the cops while walking two rottweilers and said "wait a minute officer I have a gun" they'd shot him on the spot.
He just never got stopped ~ at least by the cops.
Whatever, the lawyers trying to loot the Pittsburgh treasury are going to find something wrong with this picture.
As others here have correctly pointed out, dogs can never be real LEOs. To claim so is specious at best.
I’ve been looking for convictions under statutes that support that fallacy and am yet to find them.
I recall being part of a small group getting a tour from the mayor's office, showing off redevelopment efforts in the city. Someone asked, "when is the break-even point projected?" Um...question not understood...please restate it. "When will all this investment pay off and you'll have profits on the tax base?"
The guy looked at the questioner like he had two heads and stated that there was no projected break-even point. It was obvious that "investment" was just a throwaway term, and that the whole effort was a make-jobs program for Pittsburgh funded by taxpayers elsewhere.
It’s sad that the Republic has come to this, where the ordinary citizen fails to see the danger of such dilemmas—or even fails to see them in the first place!
When I see sexual perverts sneaking into the military so they can be MPs in POW prisons where they can sexually molest prisoners, I definitely add those people to the category of those I do not respect.
Now, you may want to defend what went on at Abu Ghraib. I'm not going to join you in that. I also want Don't Ask, Don't Tell repealed, and replaced with a general prohibition on the selection of sexual deviants and perverts for military service.
Since the PA NG had some (see that word "some") involved in sexually abusing POWs I'm merely asking the question of what happened to those guys when they got cashiered. Did they show up in the Pittsburgh police or what?
It's not beyond belief that they did.
'Some' did not appear in your original post...I would argue the semantics but since I am a P*SI don't think I need to address you anymore.
Peace. Out.
You can't have that one both ways.
BTW, that was my SECOND post on the subject.
LOL. In this case, the perp won't have a day in court, but having been a lifelong resident of Pittsburgh, I can damn well guarantee the guy would have done some very long hard time for shooting a K-9 if he had somehow survived his Darwin Award moment.
There's really nothing special about a working dog. They are readily replaced.
If you are licensed to carry a gun, you raise your empty hands and announce to the officer that you are a licensed CC owner and that you have a weapon on you.
On the other hand, if you are an idiot hip-hop gang banger, you figure you can quick draw, kill the cops and go off to your next drug deal.
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