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Austria cellar man 'mentally ill'
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Posted on 05/04/2008 11:22:39 AM PDT by austrian

Austria cellar man 'mentally ill'

Mr Fritzl claimed his daughter ran away to join a cult

Josef Fritzl, the Austrian man accused of abusing his imprisoned daughter for 24 years, should not go to jail as he is mentally ill, his lawyer says.

Rudolf Mayer says his client should be in a psychiatric unit rather than facing a trial, which will not be fair because of press coverage of the case.

Police say Mr Fritzl, 73, incarcerated and raped his daughter Elisabeth in his cellar in Amstetten in Lower Austria.

A relative of Mr Fritzl says he was convicted of another rape in 1967.

In a television interview for the Associated Press, Mr Fritzl's sister-in-law, identified only as Christine R, describes Mr Fritzl as a tyrant and said "I believe he spent a year and half in prison" for the conviction.

Josef Fritzl's sister-in-law talks about the family Police have declined to comment on the allegations, saying records that old would have been erased under Austria's statutes of limitation.

Under Austrian law convictions can be expunged after as little as five years.

'Diminished responsibility'

Mr Mayer has said that if, in his opinion, a psychiatric evaluation of Mr Fritzl ordered by the court does not give a proper assessment of his client he will consider ordering a separate report himself.

"In my personal opinion, Josef Fritzl is mentally ill and therefore of diminished responsibility. I believe that my client does not belong in prison but in a secure psychiatric unit," Mr Mayer told the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag.

He added that he is "not defending a monster but a human being, even if that is hard to take for some people. I am already receiving threatening letters saying that I belong in the cellar with Mr Fritzl."

Police say Elisabeth bore her father seven children - three of whom remained incarcerated with her, never seeing daylight until they were released earlier this week.

Mr Fritzl, who is in custody, has confessed to the crime in a written statement.

He is refusing to answer any more questions, as police try to piece together conditions in the cellar - as well as the suspect's life.

Mr Fritzl's alleged crimes came to light when Elisabeth's eldest daughter Kerstin, 19, became seriously ill.

She was allowed out of the cellar and admitted to hospital in Amstetten.

Police then issued an appeal to Elisabeth Fritzl to contact them about her daughter, and later picked up Mr Fritzl and Elisabeth near the hospital.

Elisabeth and the children are now in care with the Austrian authorities, who are protecting their privacy at a psychiatric clinic.

Kerstin is fighting for her life in hospital.


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KEYWORDS: austria; childabuse; fritzl; incest; mentalillness
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To: austrian

“…should not go to jail…”

That is correct. I agree.

Instead, he should have parts of his body cut off…like fingers, toes…then hands and feet and then more (tongue, ears, etc.) I don’t recommend eye gouging since he should see everything done to him. They should let him lay around for several weeks without pain-killers and then electrocute him for at least a day or more. And after that, chop his head off…slowly.


21 posted on 05/04/2008 11:56:06 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: austrian
not defending a monster but a human being

Some people go so far that they don't deserve to be classified as human anymore, and should be removed from humanity permanently.

22 posted on 05/04/2008 11:57:15 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: austrian

off topic. but to all. sorry i try to answer some posts but my internet browser is going nuts. sometimes i can see comments next time they are away. very strange


23 posted on 05/04/2008 11:59:05 AM PDT by austrian
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To: austrian

24 posted on 05/04/2008 12:00:28 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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same here


25 posted on 05/04/2008 12:02:14 PM PDT by Popman (Typical bitter white male clinging to my religion and guns......................)
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To: austrian

What just happened?

Did the mods just erase everything past the first comment?

If so, I will comment again:

“…should not go to jail…”

That is correct. I agree.

Instead, he should have parts of his body cut off…like fingers, toes…then hands and feet and then more (tongue, ears, etc.) I don’t recommend eye gouging since he should see everything done to him. They should let him lay around for several weeks without pain-killers and then electrocute him for at least a day or more. And after that, chop his head off…slowly.


26 posted on 05/04/2008 12:05:10 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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Just like the end of “From 10 to Midnight” where the killer says, “I’m sick, you can’t punish me for being sick. One day I’m going to get out....”

And Charles Bronson said, “Oh, no you won’t” and put a bullet in his brain pan.


27 posted on 05/04/2008 12:05:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: austrian

Reference your post #23.

I was blaming the mods which is a good place to start.

They may not be guilty this time.


28 posted on 05/04/2008 12:12:47 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: austrian; John Robinson

I see that others have discovered the thread acting up. It’s across the site.

I make a post, and on return this thread shows two comments. Your reply to me doesn’t show up in the Pings. Another thread shows three, where there’s actually 20plus. Sign out, and things are fairly normal. Sign back in, and this thread is what’s at the top of the list, though in actuality there’s several others posted since.

Does the same things in Firefox or IE. Somehow our individual histories, and how the cookies keep up with it, is kaput for the moment.


29 posted on 05/04/2008 12:14:06 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the McCainiac population. Have them spayed or neutered.)
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To: austrian

I would treat this sub human’s mental illness by locking him in that very same cellar, with just enough food and water to keep him alive for a long time. No company and no one ever opens the door.

He has no defense.


30 posted on 05/04/2008 12:14:43 PM PDT by dforest (McCain is to Conservatives like Kryptonite is to Superman.)
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To: austrian

“They may not be guilty this time.”

But off with their heads anyway just to make sure. : )


31 posted on 05/04/2008 12:19:38 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: austrian

Here we go again...

Nothing past comment #2 this time.


32 posted on 05/04/2008 12:22:09 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: austrian

And you are correct. I have to get out of FR and start over again.


33 posted on 05/04/2008 12:23:40 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: austrian
"Austria cellar man 'mentally ill' "

Well, duh!

You don't need to be smarter than a 5th grader to know that now.

It might have been useful for someone to point out this fact before all of the unspeakable events took place.
34 posted on 05/04/2008 1:09:20 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: austrian

No sh... !


35 posted on 05/04/2008 1:13:43 PM PDT by traumer
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To: austrian

His whole scheme was carefully concocted and implemented in a meticulously planned and methodical manner. Hardly the disorganized thought process of a truly mentally ill person. His actions were simply EVIL.


36 posted on 05/04/2008 1:17:23 PM PDT by informavoracious (God BLESS America)
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To: livius

x


37 posted on 05/04/2008 1:18:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: austrian

of course he is mentally ill but that does not mean he does not belong in prison solitary confinement for life....


38 posted on 05/04/2008 1:20:37 PM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: austrian

And so are his victims, by now


39 posted on 05/04/2008 1:26:37 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: austrian

I completely agree with the lawyer that this ‘person’ should not go to jail.

He should be locked in a small room in someone’s cellar and sexually abused for the next 24 years.

For starters.


40 posted on 05/04/2008 1:39:29 PM PDT by BigBadVoodooDaddy
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