Posted on 04/30/2008 9:12:42 PM PDT by BnBlFlag
Petition Seeks to Remove Denton Confederate Statue(Denton County, Texas)DENTON - While to some the statue of a Confederate soldier that stands before the Denton County Courthouse represents a piece of history, others say they believe it just represents hypocrisy. That stand has incited two University of North Texas students to start a petition for the removal of the historical landmark, a statue of a Confederate soldier holding his gun to represent the South in the Civil War. "It's really very frustrating that so many people would look at this and clap," said Aron Duhon, one of the students behind the petition. Duhon said the statue, with its two separate fountains, is a standing ovation to racism. The two fountains were originally made separate for whites and blacks. "A confederate soldier who took up arms in defense of a regime based on slavery is the farthest thing from a hero possible," Duhon said. The word "HERO" was etched in the memorial nearly 90 years ago. "We live in a diverse population," said Jason V. Waite, another student behind the petition. "We have the University of North Texas here. We have lots of foreign students, lots of commuters and this only puts a damper on entrepreneurial interests in Denton." Denton County Judge Mary Horn said the students' petition is the third time the confederate statue issue has caught the attention of the commissioners court. "We did take it up with the Texas Historical Commission and their feeling is it is part of history and it does need to stay," Horn said. There are those who agree. "When I see a Confederate soldier memorial, I got to stop to have a picture of that," said Sandy Kolls, a self-professed historical buff. Kolls came across the statue while visiting Texas from Illinois. "I'm a northerner and I honor the soldiers who fought for the Confederacy, okay?" she said of the statue. "So, I get a good feeling." There are also others who disagree. "I believe it represents hatred," said Coby Williams. "That's just like having, I guess, like a slave owner with a whip," agreed Leah Herford. The UNT students say they will collect signatures now and throughout the summer to try to convince the Texas Historical Commission to remove the statue. In the past, the Commission has stood firm on keeping the memorial standing on public ground. E-mail ddenmon@wfaa.com Print this story Email this story
the FACTS say that the "slavery was all", "slavery was the main cause of the war" or even "slavery was A major cause of the war" thesis are ALL knowing/intentional LIES, propounded by the most extreme, lunatic fringe of south-HATING (in many cases,the same professors are America-HATING, too!!!), LEFTIST/REVISIONIST academia out of "the poison ivy league".
offhand, i can think of NO traditional historian who would agree with ANY of the REVISIONISTS/LEFTISTS beliefs about the "causes of the Civil War".
it's REALLY no more complicated than this:
from the northern view, the war was to preserve "the union of the UNWILLING" at ANY cost in lives/property/treasure
OR
from the southern view, the war was ONLY about FREEDOM to be their OWN independent nation & to be out from under the DY's boot-heel.
face it, "x", the "radical unionist" side is that of the OPPRESSOR.
free dixie,sw
Hey, somebody swattied all over my computer screen!
Is there anything I can do to clean up all this swat?
It's kind of an eyesore.
from the northern view, the war was to preserve "the union of the UNWILLING" at ANY cost in lives/property/treasure
Y'all had yore own "union of the unwilling" to preserve as well.
Your bringing up the free mulattos in New Orleans calls to mind the three years I spent living in that wild tumultouus city in the Seventies.
Never in my life have I met,as a group,a more anti-black and bigoted group of folks who believed their light skin entitled them to think they were all that and a bag of chips.It was a wake up call for me coming from California.They constantly disparaged dark skinned blacks in terms you might have expected from the KKK.
Now answer the question. Who can overrule the sovereign People? If the People in convention assembled cannot decide a thing, they are not sovereign, are they?
So who is? Who owns the People in your vision of Empire, Non-Sequitur?
Yeah, like Frederick Douglass, who after the war did a partial climbdown, certainly as respects his own circumstances and the family that had owned him.
He had basically turned them into flesh-eating ogres for the benefit of his audiences before the war, and felt some compunction about it afterward. Which speaks well of his humanity, that he was willing to let them have theirs back -- after he was done with it.
Now the discussion is heating up all over again, as the "blue-state" (make that, pink state) theorists try to bring anti-Southern sectional sentiment to a red heat again, in their continuing effort (since about 1988) to break the "Finkelstein box" -- to drive moderately conservative Midwesterners away from Southern conservative Republicans.
Perhaps you've heard about this guy Blackman's new book. He's a Mississippi white guy who did intensive research into labor practices in Depression-era Mississippi and basically claims that the Mississippi employers reestablished slavery sub rosa. He was on Tavis Smiley's show the other night. Smiley asked him why he got interested in the subject, and I didn't hear a good answer.
I'm sure this fellow will be a dinner guest soon at Hodding Carter's and Bill Moyers's houses.
So can the people of Virginia meet in convention and decide to crown a king? Can the people of Georgia meet in convention and establish their own Navy? Can the people of Flordia meet in convention and establish diplomatic relations with Cuba? Can the people of Texas meet in convention and decide to secede unilaterally. No, no, no, and hell no. So how sovereign are they?
More likely Scalawags. The Carpetbaggers determined long ago that the pickings were better able to be stolen from people when holding public office where they can legislate stealing their money.
They consider marrying darker blacks to be bad form....not unlike Haiti or anywhere there are Mullatos and blacks for that matter
As I said in Post #45: Hey, here is simple solution. Just put up a series of statues showing the Rev Wright dancing like the Grambling Band!
HATERS are welcome NO place that i know of (except in the poison ivy covered walls of LEFTIST academia), but certainly NOT in the southland.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
she therefore says i shouldn't ridicule you, as you aren't able to take up for yourself;rather she thinks i should humor you as if you were a toddler having a tantrum.
free dixie,sw
Hey Hombre! When are you going to be back in the Lone Star State?
The cult of shades plays large in all cultures worldwide with any Negroid DNA involved.
You outta glean some stuff on Haiti....brutality on a scale unkwn to us simply over being too lite or too dark.
It’s why Baby Doc got ousted....he married a very beautiful, crazy, and very high caste Mulatto. ( I knew her sister....actually prettier)
The peeps never forgave him.
free dixie,sw
half-truths, diversions & DECEIT is his JOB.
free dixie,sw
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
I'd rather show just how idiotic the question is by asking those questions of my own. Can your sovereign people, meeting in convention, legally do any of those acts? No. So I guess there are limitations to their sovereignty.
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