[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>dddfd: What I find disturbing is the arrogance of some scientists and their ideological allies who pretend that they really understand life

Shryke: Ah, hrm. I’ve not come across what you are discussing.<<

You have not come across any materialists who describe living things as no more than arrangements of particles? I have, here on FR.

>>I have come across a good amount of scientists that are pissed off because they have creationists telling them they don’t understand science.<<

I agree that there are some creationists who present very weak arguments cloaked in scientific-sounding language, in some cases because they erroneously believe that evolution science is incompatible with a belief in God. I think that they ultimately do their cause more harm than good.

I believe in a God who is the source of life, and that none of us are capable of understanding life, but I offer no scientific proof of that belief. I believe that at least some of evolution science is true WRT the external, physical form of life, which is science’s proper domain.

[Shryke]

You have not come across any materialists who describe living things as no more than arrangements of particles? I have, here on FR.

That is not what you said. You said they pretend they really understand life. I've not met any biologists that claim such knowledge.