Posted on 04/26/2008 5:34:17 PM PDT by deport
Constitution Party stunner: Chuck Baldwin KOs firebrand Alan Keyes
Convening its national convention in Kansas City today, the Constitution Party picked radio talk-show host Chuck Baldwin over former Ambassador Alan Keyes as its 2008 presidential candidate.
The pick was seen as something of an upset, given Keyes' higher national profile. Known for his fiery stem-winders, Keyes is a two-time GOP presidential candidate who abandoned the Republican Party this month to join the Constitution Party, which believes in limited government and is committed to ending abortion and bringing American troops home from Iraq.
But Baldwin's roots in the Constitution Party run deeper. He was the party's 2004 vice-presidential candidate, and party members said his stands were more in line with party thinking.
"Chuck is the real deal," said Jim Clymer, the party's national chairman.
Still, the two waged a fierce battle described as the most contentious in the party's 16-year history. Baldwin wound up winning easily on a 384-126 vote. The Missouri and Kansas delegations basically split their votes between the two.
"They just rejected the most qualified man to be president," said Tom Hoefling of Lohrville, Iowa, Keyes' national political director. "Chuck Baldwin will have no impact on this election whatsoever."
The party's immediate tasks, Clymer said, are raising money and gaining ballot access in each state. The party now has qualified to be on the ballots of 21 states. He expects the eventual total to top 40 and include Kansas and Missouri.
"We're always short on money," Clymer said.
In his acceptance speech, Baldwin said his presidency would result in the ending of illegal immigration, abortion, the streamlining of the federal government, the tapping of oil reserves in Alaska and withdrawal from Iraq.
"We will stop the international meddling...this international empire-building," Baldwin said.
When he takes office, Baldwin said, "The new world order comes crashing down!"
He pledged not only to pull out of the United Nations, but to push the international organization out of New York.
"The U.N. is going to have to find themselves another (home) because their rent is up in New York City," he said.
He said he would phase out the Internal Revenue Service and end the paying of personal income taxes. He said the country should return to the gold standard.
Home schoolers, he said, would have the best friend they ever had in the White House.
Damn. Just Damn.
Keyes can’t even win an election in the Constitution Party.
‘Nuff said.
In Baseball no player has ever struck out 7 times in a single game. 6 times only in extra innings.
Even the Constitution party can see that Keyes is a twit.
This should be a no-brainer.
Barr: 98% lifetime from the ACU
-Floor manager of the Clinton impeachment
-Co-author of the DOMA
McCain: 86% lifetime from the ACU, and that has dropped like a rock the last three years
McCain/Feingold
McCain/Kennedy
McCain/Lieberman
wanted to be Kerry's running mate.
“He pledged not only to pull out of the United Nations, but to push the international organization out of New York.”
Now thats what I’m talkin’ ‘bout.
He could have moved to Little Rock and ran there, for the AR GOP could find no one to take on Senator Mark Pryor.
Sounds nice and easy, doesn't it. But, if you did it, like Chuck says he would do, you'd be a dictator and a lawbreaker.
Unilaterally throwing out the UN would breach our nation's treaty obligations, which, under our Constitution, are "the supreme law of the land." You would therefore be a lawbreaker and violator of your sacred oath of office.
You do know this, don't you?
The CP, and Chuck Baldwin, don't. Their actual knowledge of the Constitution is quite shallow, uninformed, and arrogant in its ignorance, at that.
You tell me. Which part of the philosophy and platform is ‘nonsense’?
I’m not pleased with our choices for President, either, but I’m not an idealist willing to throw away my vote in some symbolic protest that accomplishes nothing.
This election I am voting against the worst candidate, because I live in the real world, and there are real consequences to elections.
I realize that my position is increasingly a minority position at this forum, and that’s fine. People can and should vote as they please. However, my vote will matter and yours won’t. That’s a fact.
One last summary of why this went the way it did:
Alan didn’t get this nomination because he is a Reagan conservative on foreign policy, not a Lew Rockwell nut, and because he refuses to pander to anyone on, or lie to anyone about, issues that go to the security and survival of our country.
Anyone who watched our live stream from this event knows I’m telling the truth. Alan spent ten to twelve hours per day striving mightily to cure the Ron Paul disease that has infected too many individual minds and hearts. He engaged each and every one of them with truth and courage, and never backed down one inch.
He also refused to return insult for insult.
I’m quite proud of him. He set a remarkable example.
I think it is more fundamental than that. Keyes makes people uneasy at a visceral level. He just makes to much sense (most of the time) for the reality challenged to deal with. When he hooks one though it is so far out of the park it makes it easy for people to dismiss him
He’s pretty much a party of one. Not in a good way.
That’s an interesting turn of events. Unfortunately, many third parties have this strange idea that absolute philosophical purity is the end all to their existence. But it doesn’t get you elected.
Our current major parties approach it from the exact opposite perspective; they’ll say or do anything to get elected. But in the long run that does you no good as they have no cogent philosophy other than attaining power for it’s own sake.
Hopefully, a conservative political party well eventually decide to stake out the middle ground. It just may not happen this election cycle.
Or, it may...
New tagline...
Yep.
The problem is: Alan's not a lier, or a politician (to be redundant) -- he's a statesman.
STE=Q
TYPO: lier = Liar
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