Posted on 04/25/2008 6:17:33 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Imagine: One day you
This is what I'm reading in the papers Hank... most boys from that cult are evicted and abandoned at a early age so the old men don't have competition. All girls from that cult are married and raped at an early age.
Not sure why you keep saying that about foster care programs. Do you have a link that shows 100% of the girls are raped in foster care? Do you have a link that shows most young boys are abandoned to fend for themselves?
Good friends of mine are foster parents and they are good people. Are you speaking of personal experience or are you just cherry picking the horror stories of foster care that do happen?
Thankyou for posting this Hank.
To those of you replying in support of your child molesters in Texas, I can only say, I’m profoundly relieved I dont live in your country, and know my taxes and my presence dont go to support such unbelievable evil.
Moreover, your responses confirm in me the belief long growing, that Free Republic has been taken over by lefties.
Anyone who truly believed in Freedom would know that one only perpetrates an action of this magnitude when due process has proven beyond doubt that there is good reason.
Here we have — what?
Some hoaxer phone call, a person unseen by anyone, unidentified and unfindable by the press for comment?
Nothing else. The rest is heresay and gossip. No proof of anything. And on this basis you would condone tearing screaming crying children from their desperate mothers?
Imagine it’s you. Remember back when you were 5, and someone came and ripped you away from the only home you had ever known, and the mother who loved you, and threw you in with complete strangers. Do you have any idea of the stats known and demonstrate of children growing up in foster care? How many end up psychologically destroyed for life? School dropouts, criminals, prison inmates?
I know, if anyone had taken my children from me, I’d have gone insane with screaming helpless grief. I think I’d have killed myself, or some damn Child “Protection” social worker.
So I can imagine what those mothers are suffering.
And all on a hoax and a lot of gossip.
Anyone at all who supports this is as evil as the perpetrators and I wish the same punishment on you.
Tell me what you have to say.
the so called Chrisitan “experts “ on this thread are talking like mideval theologians arguing about “how many angels are on the head of a pin.
the reality is massive abuse of children, but noooo, lets just argue about interpetations of scripture.
the government did some good and did it very well considering what they were facing.
Is this FreeRepublic.com? Must have been hyjacked by the left. It takes a village. The nanny state knows what’s best for your children. They can come in with tanks and guns and take your children away, all based on a false accusation. Like I said, the Constitution has been used for toilet paper.
You have said this on every thread and it has been answered but I'll try again....
CPS (CHILD protective services) removes a child from the abusive environment. They DO NOT remove the parents. CPS is NOT Law enforcement so they act in a different manner. Hope this helps.
CPS first goes to the home and interviews the child and the parents. MOST of the calls are followed by determining if there was abuse or just a random call. If there are difficulties very often the family is set up with counseling appointments, anger management and substance abuse help for parents and ongoing visits. In these cases, children are NOT removed. CPS even does family counseling and parenting help( like the nanny show) by therapists IN the home.
Only if there appears to be serious abuse is the child removed ( medically verified sexual or physical abuse ) or parents who are so unfit ( drug users, etc). In every case, the first choice is NOT foster care but a reliable relative( grandparents, etc.).
Oh, well, it’s too late for these kids anyway. Some will die; all will suffer; some will run away. It is a great evil. The authorities are going to great lengths to cover it up. The thing I can’t understand is how so many on FreeRepublic.com have spit on the Constitution. It used to be different around here. I should have known better. Bye.
No, the constitution was NOT used for toilet paper, the childrenw ere used for toilet paper by these abusers.
Due process was followed.
Hyperbole does not make your argument reasonable.Try listening to the women who were able to leave such a cult, or read their books.THEN comment.
“such a cult”
So, not this one then?
Guilt by random association.
I guess this is what passes as thinking.
I've seen you state something on this order against CPS a few times. It seems you have deep, strong dislike for all of CPS and foster homes and are positive the children will have horrid experiences. How can paint with such a broad brush? Tom Delay was a foster parent. I don't think children would be worse off living with him.
“Imagine: One day youre frolicking in the open air on a large compound, doing your daily chores, and feasting on hearty homegrown fare;”
Imagine: One day you’re taken to a room by an old man, and find yourself bleeding, in pain and beaten if you don’t comply, while this beast who claims he’s a god is feasting on your youth.
Supporters of child molesting pedophile FLDS freaks are making me gag.
You are very right Sandra. It did used to be different around here. I remember the kind of responses here only 3 years ago. The place has been flooded with lefties, greenies, “authority” supporters. Sure aint what it used ot be, which is why I never come here. This time I was linked in by a dear friend just to see the kind of filth being posted here. AS you say “Bye”
And your point is?
There are good people in that department, people who care.
There are the few, who are power hungry. I define that as, if the child says it is so, so shall it be. (when I was young, I threatened my mom with CPS because of her well deserved discipline)It didn’t work for me back then (the 60’s) but I've seen some big trouble with it these days.
In the case of this horrible cult, I am on the side of CPS.
Hold on SD!
What are you saying?
And you have absolutely incontrovertible proof of this ....how?
You are storing it .....where?
To everyone here.
The whole, vastly important point you are all (apart From Hank and Sandra as far as I can see) deliberately refusing to acknowlege, is that these actions by your CPS were unconstitutional. They are an invasion of privacy, removal of private property and destruction of human rights without due process.
No one has been accused of a specific crime.
No one has been found guilty on objective evidence beyond any reasonable doubt.
This means it is unconstitutional, moreover evil and wrong.
Whether you like how people live or not, how they live is none of your affair. This smacks of Waco, of destruction of people on no evidence, for no proven reason, simply because “you” dont like how they live their lives.
And that, my friends, is collectivism.
Got to tell you, as one watching from a partially free country half way around the world, USA looks more and more like Stalinist Russia and China from here.
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