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Economics 101: The Price of Gas (Gasoline .30 1950 adjusted for taxes and Inflation 3.23)
Mises.Org ^ | 21 April 2008 | Sterling T. Terrell

Posted on 04/22/2008 10:07:21 AM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: ex-Texan

Regular unleaded was $4.28 in Happy Camp CA last week


21 posted on 04/22/2008 10:56:00 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: stevio

“Technology is a godsend.”

Agreed!

Algore however would have us all living in solar powered grass huts and driving two wheelers from Walmart.

(All the while he commutes to work in a Gulfstream.)


22 posted on 04/22/2008 10:57:34 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: shrinkermd
Does the article discuss supply and demand from both temporal points?

If it doesn't, simply comparing “price adjusted for inflation” is irrelevant.

That is, if there is 10 times the supply of oil now than then, the current price (which is claimed to be a match for the 1950 price) would actually be far higher than in 1950, if the demand were constant. I know the demand has not been constant, I'm using hypothetics here.

23 posted on 04/22/2008 10:58:20 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: stockpirate

Lord! where can I get my dollars converted to pesos?


24 posted on 04/22/2008 11:00:03 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: rednesss

Of course they’re in it for the money. You say that like it’s a bad thing. If there weren’t a profit to be made, the byproduct of kerosene production that no one wanted and that was a hazard to dispose of (gasoline) would never have been marketed as a fuel.

Why have unused capacity? Simple. Backup. Why do IT departments have only partially used and unused servers in their data centers? Backup. To share load. To switch to in an emergency.

Wanna do some research? Check into whether the Feds require each plant to have unused capacity to be used during emergencies. I’d be surprised if it didn’t exist.


25 posted on 04/22/2008 11:01:55 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: cvq3842
Yes, a 1953 quarter would buy you about a gallon of gas back then . . . and that same 1953 quarter would buy you the same today.

Just checked my numismatic program - mint state (MS-65) would get you 10 gallons. ;-)

26 posted on 04/22/2008 11:03:52 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("McCain is a war hero. He's also a useful idiot for the Democrats." - Mark Levin)
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To: rlmorel

Look there aren’t lines in front of gas stations, ergo there is no supply crunch. You can produce all of a commodity that you want, doesn’t mean you’re going to sell it any faster, especially when prices are up. And gasoline is a perishable commodity, it has a 2-3 month shelf life before it starts turning into turpentine. There is only so much capacity in tank farms. It makes perfect economic sense that if the demand equals X, then I’m going to supply X amount. Surpluses drive prices down, meaning that this much vaunted slim profit margin BS would be exacerbated.


27 posted on 04/22/2008 11:08:25 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I didn’t say it like it was a bad thing. If there wasn’t money in it, nobody would be doing it and I’d be walking to work. Whose emergency??? You act like Valero Energy is a part of FEMA??? They have planned outages that they budget for. Data center backup and the cost of refineries is like trying to compare the cost of a bicycle to the cost of the Space Shuttle. Wanna do some research, go here: http://www.eia.doe.gov/


28 posted on 04/22/2008 11:13:38 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: live+let_live
“How much longer do you think before the rubes catch on?”

Reading several threads on FR yesterday regarding oil prices, I’d say never.

True. Did you catch some of the comments re mortagage contracts? ... Unbelievable.

29 posted on 04/22/2008 11:19:43 AM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: rednesss

Slim profit margin BS...what do you mean?


30 posted on 04/22/2008 11:20:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Sounds about right. But the actual silver itself would be worth closer to the one-gallon mark.

this is a terrible oversimplification, but currency inflation is indeed a part of the problem.

PS I have collected coins on and off for decades. What a pain it was before the grading systems were put into place!


31 posted on 04/22/2008 11:21:06 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Keep in mind the new way of thinking. You are witnessing JIT in action. There's no need to stock anything, you can always have it over night! The Just In Time inventory management concept. Now the problem, let an interruption occur and now you have shortages and shortages = much higher cost.
32 posted on 04/22/2008 11:24:01 AM PDT by 3090VMXA (The wise man gives up what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose!)
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To: shrinkermd

ping


33 posted on 04/22/2008 11:35:23 AM PDT by Gigantor (The last oil refinery built in the United States was completed in 1976...)
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To: rlmorel

I mean even a small number times a very large number is still a very large number. According to the government data, on a daily basis, 626,598,000 gallons of gasoline, diesel, kerosene jet fuel, and residual fuel oil are produced. Now even if they only make $0.02 a gallon profit, that is still $12,540,000 per day, times 365 days a year is $4,577,100,000 a year. Hardly slim profits.


34 posted on 04/22/2008 11:39:26 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Mrs.Z

Yea....when I was about 6 years old, my parents would send me (walking) to the store (nextdoor- on a country road) to buy them their cigarettes.


35 posted on 04/22/2008 11:39:40 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: shrinkermd

except that oil prices have little to do with even inflation anymore since there is a commodity goldrush going on and it will keep going until it totally collapses (which will come about either through government regulation of trading or a massive recession in the US).

Just like ethanol, we’re literally doing this to ourselves. It’s governmental suicide.


36 posted on 04/22/2008 11:39:50 AM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
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To: dalereed
In the summer of 1972 I paid .259 for premium to fill my 2 gallon motorcycle tank. Regular gas was .299 to .309 during non-holiday weekends. It was jacked up to .339 to .389 on a big holiday weekend.

An ounce of gold was fixed at $35 in 1972. The following year, the dollar was taken off the gold standard and an ounce increased in price to $42. It is $917 today. Regular gas would be at $8.09/gallon if it tracked the gold standard.

37 posted on 04/22/2008 11:41:19 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: rlmorel
And also according to the data, gross oil inputs were 14,316,000 barrels a day. Refinery capacity is 17,588,000 per day, giving a capacity utilization rate of 81.4%. The system has plenty of spare capacity at the moment. Market forces will select the time and amount of expansion in refinery capacity.
38 posted on 04/22/2008 11:43:27 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: stockpirate
"And you can pay $4,500.00 FOR A RIDING MOWER "

Which brings up the point, my John Deere mower has an 8-gallon tank...it takes almost $30.00 to fill it up now.

I can mow my yard twice, maybe three times on a tank.

$30.00 to fill up a LAWN MOWER...I may do like they did in the 50's and pull up all my grass in favor of a dirt front yard...just sweep it every week or so with a "brush broom" and leave it at that.
39 posted on 04/22/2008 11:44:09 AM PDT by FrankR (OBAMA is the VAST WRIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY...)
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40 posted on 04/22/2008 11:51:21 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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