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To: BGHater
Americans are sick and tired of the financial burden and the endless forms to fill out.

No, they're not. If they were, we wouldn't have this system.

I'm sick and tired of people complaining while supporting the people in office who perpetuate the things they're complaining about.

5 posted on 04/21/2008 7:10:45 PM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Dahoser; jan in Colorado

Couldn’t say it any better, Dahoser!


7 posted on 04/21/2008 7:14:59 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Dahoser

No kidding! People complain about the loss of power, they complain that Bush is wiretapping and listening in on their phone conversations yet they have no problem jumping through hoops, telling the IRS all kinds of personal information and wading through pages and pages of BS all in the hopes that they’ll get some of their own money backs. Messed up.


8 posted on 04/21/2008 7:21:05 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Dahoser
No, they're not. If they were, we wouldn't have this system.

The Americans facing this burden directly are overwhelmingly outnumbered by those who aren't. The lowest 50% of tax returns have an average tax rate under 3%. They take their 1040 to H&R and get it done in an afternoon.

That isn't even touching the millions of Americans who don't file at all.

And these people all vote. Around election time, they're a lot more receptive to talking about new government handouts for themselves than about tax complexity faced by other people.

We have exactly the system you would expect unqualified democracy to produce.

15 posted on 04/21/2008 9:34:28 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: Dahoser
Americans are sick and tired of the financial burden and the endless forms to fill out.

No, they're not. If they were, we wouldn't have this system.

Yes they are sick of it, but they have no fire in their belly and take a Prozac instead. Well, plus they caper like mad fools in triumph when they "win" by getting a nickel of their taxes back here and there from Uncle Sam Santa. Americans are becoming as sheepish as Canadians, the British, et al. Self-defeatists. People give up when they no longer realize what they've lost.

19 posted on 04/22/2008 4:19:28 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Dahoser
No, they're not. If they were, we wouldn't have this system.

Withholding makes it too painless. Make everybody write big checks four times a year, and change would come quickly.

50 posted on 04/24/2008 7:51:14 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Dahoser
We vote for Candidate A, who promised to "fix" things. They don't. We vote for Candidate B, who promises to "fix" the things Candidate A failed to do. They don't. So we go searching for Candidate C, who is "unelectable" because of all the Party reptiles who are playing "my Team right or wrong" games.

But it's the voters fault?

So all those elected a$$holes who promise one thing and yet never seem to deliver are not culpable at all? They aren't committing fraud after all?

It isn't the voting that is the problem. It's a lack of a mechanism like the old Greek Ostracism that allows unprincipled, back-stabbing, anti-Freedom, Constitution ignoring sh*tbags in BOTH Parties to continue to safely ignore the electorate.

After all, with no real recourse to removing a bad legislator... what are you going to do? Yell about it online? Try and "vote them out" next time?

Until people are ready to FORCIBLY remove these people, there is very little that will actually change.

52 posted on 04/24/2008 8:05:45 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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