Texas LDS deal with confusion

Deseret News ^ | 04/21/2008 | Ben Winslow

[jwatz49]

If I had to guess, and I do, it would be that DelphiUser’s church invites in guest preachers who slander and villify the Mormon church. Very much in the vein of the very reverend Wright.
But; its just my opinion.

[jwatz49]

There is a current study checking the claims of Supposed wives of Joseph. The DNA makes them out to be liars.

[jwatz49]

“Um, as a Mormon, let me say, yes he did, and what are you smoking?”

From the context of the above comment it would appear that greyfoxx39 is the one doing the smoking.

Joseph preached against Polygamy; his one wife affirmed that she was his only wife. Oh, there were no children by any other women. DNA checks have eliminated lots of liars. Also, many women were married to him after his murder(that’s after he was dead - for you stoners).

[greyfoxx39]

From the context of the above comment it would appear that greyfoxx39 is the one doing the smoking.

Joseph preached against Polygamy; his one wife affirmed that she was his only wife. Oh, there were no children by any other women. DNA checks have eliminated lots of liars. Also, many women were married to him after his murder(that’s after he was dead - for you stoners).

This N00b wants a lesson in Joseph Smith....I'm sure you can oblige. Who has the "wives" chart?

[MHGinTN]

Smith and ‘plural marriage:

Wife	Date	Age	Husband*
Emma Hale Fanny Alger Lucinda Morgan Harris Louisa Beaman Zina Huntington Jacobs Presendia Huntington Buell Agnes Coolbrith Sylvia Sessions Lyon Mary Rollins Lightner Patty Bartlett Sessions Marinda Johnson Hyde Elizabeth Davis Durfee Sarah Kingsley Cleveland Delcena Johnson Eliza R. Snow Sarah Ann Whitney Martha McBride Knight Ruth Vose Sayers Flora Ann Woodworth Emily Dow Partridge Eliza Maria Partridge Almera Johnson Lucy Walker Sarah Lawrence Maria Lawrence Helen Mar Kimball Hanna Ells Elvira Cowles Holmes Rhoda Richards Desdemona Fullmer Olive Frost Melissa Lott Nancy Winchester Fanny Young	Jan 1827 1833 1838 Apr 1841 Oct 1841 Dec 1841 Jan 1842 Feb 1842 Feb 1842 Mar 1842 Apr 1842 Jun 1842 Jun 1842 Jul 1842 Jun 1842 Jul 1842 Aug 1842 Feb 1843 Spring 1843 Mar 1843 Mar 1843 Apr 1843 May 1843 May 1843 May 1843 May 1843 Mid 1843 Jun 1843 Jun 1843 Jul 1843 Mid 1843 Sep 1843 1843 Nov 1843	22 16 37 26 20 31 33 23 23 47 27 50 53 37 38 17 37 33 16 19 22 30 17 17 19 14 29 29 58 32 27 19 14 56	NONE NONE George W. Harris NONE Henry Jacobs Norman Buell NONE Windsor Lyon Adam Lightner David Sessions Orson Hyde Jabez Durfee John Cleveland NONE NONE NONE NONE Edward Sayers NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE Jonathan Holmes NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE
* Living Husband at the time of    Marriage to Joseph Smith			References

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Smith and sex w/wives: http://www.i4m.com/think/joseph-smith-polygamy.htm

[colorcountry]

Yes, you are RLDS. Interesting.

[Tennessee Nana]

Oooooooooooooooooooooo

How I miss Elsie..

:(

[Zakeet]

Your list comes from the LDS Historian Todd Compton.

It is considered by most to be extremely conservative since Compton only included women for whom there was undisputed evidence from two or more sources.

Many put the total far higher. For example, Fawn Brodie names Smith 56 wives in her classic biographic biography, No Man Knows My History.

[MHGinTN]

I have a first edition of Brodie’s book. But I thought it best to post the most conservative list since the poor uneducated in Smithism mormons are already in shock when they learn that there are so many and that many of the women were still married to living men and that many of the women have sworn to the fact that their relationship with Joe was sexual, albeit usually brief.

[bonfire]

me too :(

HURRY BACK< ELSIE!!

[MHGinTN]

Hey! That list got posted quickly. Even Elsie wouldn’t have had it up faster! [Sheesh, I’m chopped liver, Elsie! You better get your rear back here quickly.]

[Tennessee Nana]

In the list the ages etc dont corespond...

The lines are out of whack...

[MHGinTN]

Picky, picky picky ... the husbands and wives names match on my screen. [See, LC, they just can’t be pleased. Get your sorry butt back here! Tough crowd ...]

[Tennessee Nana]

I’m picky, yes...

Elsie is perfection personified...

The second string is failing to meet the high standards set by Elsie

:)

[MHGinTN]

Pay no attention to that, LC, your head is already not fitting your hats. It’s all ‘absence makes the heart grow fonder’ ... Yeah! That’s it, they miss you so you’re now an immortal!

[bonfire]

How much longer???

[Zakeet]

I thought it best to post the most conservative list since the poor uneducated in Smithism mormons are already in shock when they learn that there are so many.

You probably know Fawn Brodie had extraordinary access to secret Mormon archives through her family connections -- her uncle was LDS President David McKay and her father was the President of BYU. She was careful not to use any information in her histories that was not in the public domain. But she also said on many occasions that her tally of 56 vastly understated the number of Joseph's conquests.

Also, as you probably know, Joseph's most effective approach was to ask a young lady if she wanted to spend eternity in heaven or hell. The outcome depended on the degree to which the woman pleased her prophet.

[Colofornian]

The Spirit has borne witness to me over and over that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the church of Christ restored, with the same priesthood that existed in the original church, the same ordinances, and the same doctrine. It has also borne witness to me that the Book of Mormon is another witness of Jesus Christ and an ancient record.

"It?" "It??" "It has also borne witness to me...?" What? The Holy Ghost, rarely mentioned in much of Mormon theology, is so unfamiliar to you that HE's an "it?"

Allow me to introduce you to HIM. HE--the Holy Spirit--can be...

Grieved (Eph 4:30)
Outraged (Heb. 10:29)
Lied to (Acts 5:3)
Tempted (Acts 5:9)
Sent ("I will send Him unto you" -- Jesus, John 16:7)

The Holy Spirit...
Loves (Rom. 15:30)
Wills (1 Cor. 12:11)
Sends (Acts 13:4)
Forbids certain actions (Acts 16:6-7)
Teaches ("HE shall teach you all things" - Jesus, John 14:26)

The Holy Ghost isn't some impersonal influential power.

(Examples like these show that when the LDS kicked out the Trinity, they often kick out who the third Person of God is)

[SkyPilot]

From the context of the above comment it would appear that greyfoxx39 is the one doing the smoking. Joseph preached against Polygamy; his one wife affirmed that she was his only wife. Oh, there were no children by any other women. DNA checks have eliminated lots of liars. Also, many women were married to him after his murder(that’s after he was dead - for you stoners).

Wow. I am amazed.

You might be taken to the woodshed on Free Republic by your LDS and RLDS masters. You have come here and stated things that are clearly wrong and only hurt "The Cause."

Remembering the Wives of Joseph Smith

That list isn't even complete and the number of Smith's "wives" is as high as 60.

Eleven of Smith's wives were between ages 14 and 20, nine were in their 20s...

That is from LDS "scholars."

Smith also had hundreds of women "sealed" to him after his death, but these were different women.

There is ample evidence he "preached against Polygamy" as you said - but even more evidence that he practiced it.

Even Freepers like DelphUser agree he practiced polygamy and had sexual union with them. < grin >

[SkyPilot]

Sorry - I forgot to mention that the “ < grin >
“ was only because that is what Freeper DelphiUser likes to post. I realize it is very smarmy and obnoxious - and I didn't mean it to patronize you.