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To: D-fendr

“If you spec out identical components, the Mac is cheaper.”

Actually if I spec out and build the machine myself, I come out way ahead of the Mac and better than Dell. ;)


152 posted on 04/11/2008 10:35:38 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

I agree completely.

PC’s are a less expensive, more open, and far more scalable platform.

Mac is none of those and you pay a premium for being unable to make changes to your system.


154 posted on 04/11/2008 10:39:14 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: Slapshot68
Actually if I spec out and build the machine myself, I come out way ahead of the Mac and better than Dell. ;)

I don't think I have the guts or ability to build my own laptop. I admit I splurged and got the Macbook Air. What a great machine. Plus, I do lots of lecturing and am repeatedly surrounded afterwards by cute medical students ogling my laptop (and me?). And when I fly by cute flight attendants. That never happened when I had a Dell!

156 posted on 04/11/2008 10:41:24 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Slapshot68
Actually if I spec out and build the machine myself, I come out way ahead of the Mac and better than Dell.

Yeah, but you work cheaper than the Taiwanese. :)

176 posted on 04/11/2008 11:12:55 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Slapshot68
Actually if I spec out and build the machine myself, I come out way ahead of the Mac and better than Dell. ;)

I wouldn't suggest doing that with a Mac Pro. We haven't been able to find the parts as cheap as Apple sells that machine.

246 posted on 04/11/2008 2:23:57 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Slapshot68
Actually if I spec out and build the machine myself, I come out way ahead of the Mac and better than Dell. ;)

Why not do it? Show us. The basic Mac Pro is $2799.00.

Put a price list together that will build a system that duplicates the components of the Mac Pro... for under $2800. Should be easy.

I tried it:

I found that the Intel Xeon processors alone to match the MacPro (Intel Xeon E5462 2.8GHz, 1600MHz FSB) are which Dell sells for around $1200. Best price I found for these on the Internet was $843... each. You need two: $1,686.00.

High quality aircraft-grade aluminum case: $ 150.00.

1000W Power Supply (The Mac Pro's is actually 1200W max) .. you might get one cheaper but are you going to risk your $1600 of processors to the bottom of the barrel? Average price is : $250.00

High quality dual quad core Xeon ready 771 Socket Xeon (1600MHz FSB) quality motherboard (average price of six offered): $600.00

Graphics card: $100

2GB Fully buffered ECC DDR2 800MHz FB-DIMM (cheapest): $ 140.00

320GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200 rpm, 8MB cache Hard drive: $ 80.00

Vista Ultimate OEM: $ 166.00

CD/DVD burner: $ 30.00

Cooling fans - case requires 4 - and the Mac Pro is very quiet so you can't get buy with cheapies: $100.00

Keyboard with USB ports and Optical Mouse: $30.00

ITEM INTERNET PRICE BALANCE
Apple Mac Pro Retail: $ 2799.00 $ 2799.00
2 Xeon Processsors $ 1686.00 $ 1113.00
Aluminum Computer Case $ 150.00 $ 963.00
1000 Watt Power Supply $ 250.00 $ 713.00
Xeon 771 Socket 1600MHz Motherboard $ 600.00 $ 113.00
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD $ 100.00 $ 13.00
2 GB ECC FB-DIMM (2 1GB DIMMS) $ 140.00 $ 127.00
Vista Ultimate OEM $ 166.00 $ 293.00
CD/DVD RW burner drive $ 30.00 $ 323.00
Four (4) Quiet cooling fans $ 100.00 $ 423.00
Keyboard and Mouse $ 30.00 $ 453.00
Total Cost: PC Parts v. Mac Pro $ 3252.00 $ 2799.00
Show me how to do it for significantly less money, Slapshot68...

265 posted on 04/12/2008 12:12:01 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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