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To: P-Marlowe
If a payoff could be confirmed, I might agree, but I'm not sure that's the case.

Payoffs do not have to be monetary. Being granted a "spiritual blessing" from the Prophet is at least as much of an incentive to trade your child into slavery as a monetary payoff. The fact is that these parents willingly force their children into sexual relationships with old men and expect some kind of reward in exchange.

For the record, I would prefer the legal age limit be eighteen.

I would agree that some barter system could also be ground for saying the kids were sold into slavery.  I do want to be careful not to sign on to this too heavily yet in this case.  We don't know what actually took place.  Some of hit may be horific, but I want more than a simple process serving and mass arrests to back up the validity of all this.

Currently the worst thing that can be said with any reliability is that a mass arrest has taken place, and that being the case massive criminality must have been taking place.

Already we have forum participants talking about slavery...

Let's give this a little more time to flesh out.  When we know what was taking place for sure, we can't address it for what it is with no problem.

I suspect that most of what went on was that one perverted old man would trade his own 13 year old daughter for another perverted old man's 13 year old daughter. That, my friend, is slavery.

Neither of us would agree with this taking place, but if the girls were consensual it would not be slavery.  It would be illegal, there would be pedophilia and statutory rape.  It would not be slavery.

Make no mistake about it. What has been going on here is the selling and trading of human beings for sexual purposes.

Please try to refrain from convicting these folks before they have had due process.  While I agree that some unsavory things may have been taking place out there, we have no proof of that at all yet.

There will be plenty of time to address this for what it actually is, after charges are brought and certainly after reasoned convictions are obtained.

I don't like the rush to judgement associated with this.

399 posted on 04/06/2008 11:29:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Please try to refrain from convicting these folks before they have had due process.

The government has to give them due process.

I don't.

I don't have to wait for a jury verdict in order to condemn these people. I don't have to sift through a mountain of excluded evidence to know that these people are as guilty as hell.

In my mind they are all a bunch of sexual deviant child molesters. I'm not one to give perverts the benefit of the doubt, especially in a place where sexual deviancy is preached from the pulpit.

447 posted on 04/06/2008 2:27:29 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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