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To: Enosh

Jasher is not part of the Apochrypha. It is just a chronicle of the tribes of Adam, from him on down through Abraham, Isaac, and Moses. It stops when Joshua enters Canaan, and then the histories continue, in Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings, Chronicles, Ruth, Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther.
The Tower of Babel’s size, as described in the Book of Jasher, after one third destroyed by earthquake, one third destroyed by fire, and one third left, was a three days walk around it -so?

That the sons of God took daughters of Adam as stated in Enoch 1, and caused the earth to become so corrupt that the first consumation of sin on earth was sent by the flood, is the record which Moses had; and which record Moses redacted the information he shared, when he wrote Genesis.
The longer stories of those things which Moses mentions are explained, with the dates and ages and names and places, in the book of Jasher.
I bring these up because those two books were fully used and accepted,and are both used for information which is in the OT and th NT; and Enoch was called a prophet of God, and nothing he writes in Enoch 1 contradicts one thing in the OT or NT, but does explains much., With those two books -which anyone can read for themselves today- all false doctrines taught by any religion which uses the OT and or NT, are fully refuted.
False religions make much of using the OT and or NT, but they twist them into unrecognizable forms to confound and confuse the simple minded -or the willing to be misled ones- but they are shown to be false when the books mentioned are brought into the light, for comparison to the OT and NT; for they preceded all and leave no room for falsifying either the OT or the NT.


2,919 posted on 04/13/2008 5:58:07 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem
"... was a three days walk around it -so?"

Call it sixty miles in circumference. One building. That's big.

"That the sons of God took daughters...

Ala Genesis, this can also be seen as Seth's line.

2,920 posted on 04/13/2008 6:07:57 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem; Enosh
Jasher is not part of the Apochrypha.

Jasher and 1 Enoch are part of Pseudographa. Depending which version of Jasher is being cited, it has a 800 - mediaeval origin. The common edition out there is edited by Jacob Ilive, and is considered to be a forgery. 1 Enoch is older, but was redacted late from five to six different components, writing for oldest late 200BC to youngest late first century AD to second century. Meaningful discussions can be found here:

http://www.irr.org/mit/lostbooks.html

http://answers.org/bible/jasher-book-of.html

2,931 posted on 04/13/2008 6:29:16 PM PDT by Godzilla (We are the land of the free because of the brave.)
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem; Enosh
I bring these up because those two books were fully used and accepted,and are both used for information which is in the OT and th NT; and Enoch was called a prophet of God, and nothing he writes in Enoch 1 contradicts one thing in the OT or NT, but does explains much., With those two books -which anyone can read for themselves today- all false doctrines taught by any religion which uses the OT and or NT, are fully refuted.

False religions make much of using the OT and or NT, but they twist them into unrecognizable forms to confound and confuse the simple minded -or the willing to be misled ones- but they are shown to be false when the books mentioned are brought into the light, for comparison to the OT and NT; for they preceded all and leave no room for falsifying either the OT or the NT.

First, neither book was accepted into the canon. False religions also make much of extra-canonical documents and elevate them to an equal status as the Bible. 1 Enoch is by at least 5- 6 different authors, 'extant' Jasher a forgery. Therefore these writings do not bring anything to light. There is no need to supplement the scriptures with these because all false doctrines can be refuted easily with the scripture we already have in the bible.

2,936 posted on 04/13/2008 6:35:40 PM PDT by Godzilla (We are the land of the free because of the brave.)
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