The redemption was for those before and those present as well as for those yet unborn
This has nothing to do with second chance where ever you get that from, those who have never receive a witness from the Holy Spirit.(many like to assign that to the LDS an in most cases an x lds is where this most likely came from. Because they never receive the witness themselves.)
I don't need a scholar interpertation when the spirit of the Lord is the one who teaches for all who are willing to listen.
You amaze me when it is as clear as day
1 Peter 4
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Jesus spend endless hours speaking and on many it fell on deaf ears, and those who had ears to hear received the understanding by the Power of the spirit Lord!
Heb 10
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
”to those who are dead (I Peter 4:6) The preaching of the gospel not only offers a rich life (3:10), a ceasing from sin (v. 1), and a good conscience (3:21), but also an escape from final judgment. Peter had in mind believers who had heard and accepted the gospel of Christ when they were still alive, but who had died by the time Peter wrote this letter. Some of them perhaps, had been martyred for their faith. Though these were dead physically, they were triumphantly alive in their spirits (cf. Heb. 12:23). All their judgment had been fully accomplished while they were alive in this world (“in the flesh”), so they will live forever in God’s presence.” (The MacArthur Study Bible, Word Publishing, c1997, p. 1947.)
“the gospel was preached even to those…..now dead. This has been interpreted as referring to (a) those who are spiritually ‘dead in sin’, (b) those who heard and believed the gospel but have since died, (c) those who died without hearing or believing the gospel. Barclay preferred the third interpretation, assuming that 3:19 refers to Christ’s preaching to the dead. Consequently he believed that here ‘was a breathtaking glimpse of a gospel of a 2nd chance.’ This interpretation has no scriptural support and is contrary to orthodox Christian doctrine. (The Bible Knowledge Commentary, Walvoord & Zuck, c1983 p. 853; New Testament Edition).
So let's analyze this verse in context and grammar shall we????
I Peter 4:6 KJV - 6For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead,
I Peter 4:6 NASV - 6For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead,
I Peter 4:6 NIV - 6For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead,
Notice the verb tense in this passage Resty. It is always past tense, not present tense. It says that the gospel "was" preached to them (when they were still alive on earth), but they "are" now dead - it does not say that the gospel "is" preached to those who are dead. I Pet. 4:1-6 is not about salvation for the dead! Its about living for God in the flesh so that we are ready to meet Him at death. What did you do Resty, flunk English 101 and can't even tell the difference between past and present tense verbs?
So once again Resty you are twisting Scripture here to make it what you want it to say not what it does say.
What’s the deal here Resty????? Did you lose a loved one at some point in the past prior to your conversion to Mormonism that was not saved??? Then some Mormon comes along and tells you that loved one can still be saved and that’s what hooked you into the LDS like a fish on a line???? Is that it Resty???? Well I hate to break it to you but Scripture does NOT teach this concept no matter how much you fervently want to believe this lie, and no matter how much you may twist Scripture to your own ends. And just like that fish you are now in the frying pan. As long as you continue to preach falsehood your end will be worse than that loved one you lost, because you are going to have to give an account of every word that you’ve spoken in defense of false teaching and idolatry, in this case the idolatry of worshiping Joseph Smith. (I Peter 4:5).
I, for one, am just SALIVATING thinking that soon I will LISTEN while you tell me just what is wrong with PRESBYTERIANISM!
The spirits in prison to whom Jesus Christ “preached” to, were the chained sons of God [angels called watchers] who left their first estate [as sons of heaven] and fornicated by taking wives of daughters of Adam, and so were chained in Sheol, below/beneath/under earth, as a warning to others [other watchers] who might be tempted to the same fornication.
So says Jude. Jude got his information from the book of Enoch 1, as Peter also did.
The spirits in prison did not have good news given them by Jesus Christ, but rather they heard and saw the finish of His work, from below, where they were chained since the time of Noah’s flood; and which work of the redemption of Adam those angels tried to thwart by the pollution of the gene pool.
Because the Son of Man is come in flesh of second creation, [and who is YHWH come in flesh as Kinsman to redeem Adam and Adam’s lost inheritance]; therefore the evil schemes of the fallen angels will come to the end that they were told they would, by Enoch.
Enoch went to heaven and received the words of the doom of the damned reprobates -the sons of heaven- who were damned by mutual consent when they determined to take wives of daughters born of Adam. The sons they got by fornication [the marrying of the daughters of Adam was called fornication], were also damned for eternity, with no hope for redemption and no hope for their stolen flesh of Adam bodies to rise again, in the resurrection.
Otherwise, all souls/persons born in Adam were and are born dead in spirit and dead in body; born dead to the Glory of God indwelling, since the fall of our first father.
To live again as sons of God [which Adam was made to be -Luke 3:38; Malachi 2:15- before the fall, a person born in Adam [the dead son] must be born again, a second time, into the One Living Spirit of the second and only living human being Son of God.
Only by being born of His One Living Spirit while you have your being intact, can you be assured of being born again in the body of immortality at the resurrection. Both the second birth of Spirit and the second birth of body are called “the adoption”, in the Word; and it is adoption into the name of the New Man; who, alone, inherits the earth which was first made for “Adam and ben Adam”, and unites it with the regenerated heavens, when He regenerates it at the appointed time.
The body is dead because of sin, says the Word of God, and those who receive the Gospel get baptized for that dead body, to subject it in hope of the resurrection in Christ, which is the message of 1 Cor 15 and which is why the dead Adam is subjected to baptism, in obedience to the Gospel of Christ which the “dead in sin souls” receive.
The Adam flesh your soul wears is dead, and you will never have the regeneration of that body to Life, in it’s resurrection [and regeneraton of it into the image of the New Man] if you are not born again in Spirit while your soul is dwelling in that dead body.
That is the hope of the Gospel of Christ, which hope we who are born again in Christ’s One Living Spirit, have. We have the hope of the resurrection to life, in His image.