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To: McCoMo
I am not going to say there is any harm in conducting such an act, but I think it is pointless. I think God is aware of the various extenuating circumstances and takes them into account when trying a soul in the balance. I believe that applies to men who never had an opprtunity to hear the Word of God as well, if that is your concern. Whether we perform some ritual on behalf of that person, or not, makes no difference, IMO, in how God would judge that soul. My sense of Justice, and belief in a Just God compell me to believe that men are judged on their own merits, and not on the actions of others. A belief in a man, who is a good man, not getting into heaven yet then getting reprieved because someone in this world does some ritual sounds entirely too much like when the RCC in the middle ages sold dispensation for sins, even for sins for people who had already died. (In other words, if you gave money to the church, you could buy a loved one’s soul out of Hell. I do not think God takes bribes.)

Of course the Lord is all knowing that is why I believe the Lord has this ordinance, Baptism for the dead.

When I was talking about the 10% vs the 90% I was talking about each person while on earth has a choice how they spend their time as they like some will on make a 10% effort and than their are those who who will make a 90% committment.

This has nothing to do with rich vs poor an in temtporal, this is in worship, where do people spend their time, bar hopping, sports, other recreation etc or about building up the Lord's kingdom?

2,741 posted on 04/12/2008 10:18:10 PM PDT by restornu ( Pandora's box is being unleashed)
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To: restornu

“Of course the Lord is all knowing that is why I believe the Lord has this ordinance, Baptism for the dead.”

Setting aside the fact that the Bible says nothing about Baptism for the dead, I believe such an “ordinance” is unnecessary and thus pointless.

“When I was talking about the 10% vs the 90% I was talking about...”

Then you should make yourself clearer.

I do not believe in 10% commitment, or 90% commitment. I either am commited, 100%, or I am not commited. Simple as that. Rev 3:16 “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth”.

But that does not negate the truth that no matter how commited we are, we will yet fall short and thus require the Grace of Christ.


2,744 posted on 04/12/2008 10:31:29 PM PDT by McCoMo (Romans 12:19 ....“Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”)
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To: restornu
This has nothing to do with rich vs poor an in temtporal, this is in worship, where do people spend their time, bar hopping, sports, other recreation etc or about building up the Lord's kingdom?

Or hanging out online all day trying so very hard to justify what the LDS Founder and leaders have done and preached...

2,778 posted on 04/13/2008 4:46:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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