how do you know were you there?
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Do I know where I was, here ???
Yeppers ....sho do...
I was in my kitchen making a cup of quite Biblical coffee...
How do you take your’s ????
Many of you have turned this horrific and evil display of the RLDS standoff and rescuing of these girls, into your own personal cutting boards against the LDS faith. This is what disgusts me. Say what you want back, but I must speak out.
I am a lifelong member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, sometimes called Mormons, but I have my own connection to the FLDS that none of you know about, until now. I share this at my own risk, but I do not care. I want to point out to you just how repugnant and evil this FLDS group is, and how they are in no way practicing the LDS faith, now, nor the way it was done over a hundred years ago when the LDS abandoned the practice.
My great grandmother was sucked into the Shortcreek bunch after moving to Southern Utah from Montana. She married a “Carling”, for which the city cemetery is named. I had other family that tried to dissuade her and her chosen lifestyle, but she would not. When my grandmother was a early teen, she escaped the very evil and repressive lifestyle of these people with the help of other family. She became LDS, and forever turned her back on her mother and her “chosen” faith. I am forever grateful to her. She was one of the most Christian women to ever walk this earth, and I miss her dearly.
My parents stopped in Short Creek (Colorado City and Hilldale by today's names) once when I was a kid, to meet my Dad's grandmother. The spirit she gave off was not something I ever want to experience again. I would call it pure evil. My parents loaded us up and left, and never returned.
In the course of my employment for a TV news outlet, I have been back several times, and spent nearly a month covering the Warren Jeffs trial in St. George. I had to listen to the testimony of those proceedings day in and day out. It was repugnant. These people are evil, pure and simple. There are so many bad things about their perversions, wither it's welfare fraud, child abandonment, child labor, sexual perversions, etc. It's really messed up.
Now, comparing that to the faith of my fathers is a whole different animal. Most of you just love to compare Warren Jeffs to Joseph Smith or Brigham Young. There is not can be any comparison.
I've defended the principle of biblical polygamy on this thread because I know that God's ancient prophets were chosen by him. God himself calls Abraham His prophet, and we know that they were righteous, not adulterers. In fact, just a few verses after Moses writes down the 10 commandments, there is provisions in the law for 2nd wives. (Exodus 21:10) as well as other references like Deuteronomy 21:15 where 2nd wives are to be treated fairly, etc. It's odd to us, but it was part of life for them. We don't know all the particulars, but we know they were men of God and His chosen prophets.
Now, as to the the practice of plural marriage for a 50 year period of time in the 1800’s by the LDS Church... it has no basis in reality to that of the FLDS. Those who did what Jeffs people are doing were excommunicated, people practicing sexual perversions in the name of the church were excommunicated by Joseph and Brigham. The practice was a hard thing for them to do, these were puritans seeking religious liberty, but they but they did so out of obedience. Like it or not, it was a choice, and only a small percentage were deemed faithful enough to live the law, for lasciviousness was not tolerated. In fact, even known Anti Mormon “exposer” John C. Bennett, who started the Nauvoo Expositor, was excommunicated by Joseph for his serial infidelities and his perverted practices about the principle.
Bernard Shaw once said:
“Now nothing can be more idle, nothing more frivolous, than to imagine that this polygamy had anything to do with personal licentiousness. If Joseph Smith had proposed to the Latter-day Saints that they should live licentious lives, they would have rushed on him and probably anticipated their pious neighbors who presently shot him.”
One more, this by Fawn Brodie, an Anti Mormon, a critical biographer of Joseph Smith and a recognized expert on Smith, admitted that polygamy in Joseph’s mind was not about anything other than restoring the Biblical practice and completing a “restoration of all things.”
Many of you have taken it upon yourselves to be Lawyer, Judge and executioner of Joseph Smith. That is your right, but it is also my right to proclaim that He was a prophet of God, and restored the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I hope some of you will read this. It's a pretty fair and in-depth explanation of why the LDS Church practiced polygamy. This is from the Encyclopedia of Mormonism.