Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot
Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.
The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.
The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.
The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.
Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.
“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”
Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.
Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.
“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”
Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.
Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.
The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.
“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”
The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.
The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.
Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.
“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.
Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.
No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.
Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.
“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”
It one of those that seems like it is going away and than it return again I am going later to get some meds for it before it turn to congestive heart!
That happen to my husband years ago he just thought it was a nasty cold but it turn into more, one really has to becareful now days with colds!
Feel better, resty. And get some REST!
That happen to my husband years ago he just thought it was a nasty cold but it turn into more, one really has to becareful now days with colds!
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That’s one reason I dont bother having any...colds that is...
The Old Testamant and the New Testament told me I didnt have to have any sickness if I didnt want any...
Aint God good ????
That’s one reason I dont bother having any...colds that is...
The Old Testamant and the New Testament told me I didnt have to have any sickness if I didnt want any...
Aint God good ????
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You just gave a testimony of the life of a Christian Science...
one only gets sick when they error
Be ye therefore perfect!
-—”First of all you jump in on something that has been going on for over a year this is not just a drive by thread I was here by my self before my nemisis showed up.
-—So statements I make are froma long trail of of being ambushed by a few here over and over. You really don’t know who is who to be fair so to have an assessment until after a few weeks you should hold judgement.
-—Since you are jaded on the LDS I am sure you will side with them.”
700+ posts, methinks this is hardly a drive-by thread. I have seen enough of your judgementalism in posts made to others, and myself, in this ONE THREAD alone to tell me all I need to know... especially when I see someone falling back on the ole ‘Do not question me, I am witnessed to by God’ line. You are witnessed to by SOMEONE, thats for sure... but I am uncertain it is God and not the other guy.
-—”This kind of silly retort is very non productive only met to hurt from a person like who says he is a Chirstian but can not hold the tongue, really it is an automatic response I know I have the visit from the same spirit who urges one to do that, but I have been trying to subdue that voice of ill will!”
The problem I have with YOU is the fact that you are intellectually dishonest... an example being where you make the claim that I will side with one denomination of church over the other, when in fact I have made it quite clear that I am unconcerned with which denomination ANY of the characters involved are. Intellectual dishonesty can be named another thing, and be equally true... it is LIE. So that makes the one who willfully promotes it a LIAR. If I am hostile to a LIAR, then I am in good company. I beleive even Jesus Christ was hostile to those who willfully sin.. I recall something about him kicking a few tables over in the Temple. Yes, I am angered by intellectual dishonesty, and angered by any who lie or who would bear false witness... and I feel no need to be ashamed of THAT anger. The statement was meant to hurt? Of course it is. Sometimes it takes a slap in the face to make someone wake up and see reality.. and then again.. sometimes even that is not enough.
“OK, I’ll do this one more time, just for you.”
Actually Seven, you are doing it for you because
you misrepresented Christ’s lineage the first time.
“Jesus’ mortal line came through the House of David, who’s kings practiced polygamy. “
Exactly what I wrote. But be clear that Jesus’ lineage was
not polygamous, as Resty stated. He had ancestors who
practiced polygamy.
“That satisfy your intellectual prowess? ;-)”
No prowess required here. Just stating what is true and not
what mormonism tries to make true. You are correct this time.
But I add that this kind of intellectual sloppiness on the
part of mormonism has led to all kinds of falsehoods, heresies,
and illogical positions.
You done good Seven.
You just gave a testimony of the life of a Christian Science...
one only gets sick when they error
Be ye therefore perfect!
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Why are you sick, Resty...
You mean you did not know that? Yes, it is true. They believe that Christ came over and ministered to the Aztecs, and was what the aztec peoples called Quetzecoatl (sp?) who was the “Feathered Serpent God”. They also believe that this is the reason the Aztecs thought the first conquistadors were God. Aztec legends held that Quetzecoatl travelled from the east on a ship with great white sails... and so when the conquistadors arrived, it was the return of the messiah.
You're joking, right? Please tell me you're joking.
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Yeah, that one was so wrong on so many levels. Firstly, no sailing, it was the resurrected, glorified Christ who ascended from heaven and appeared to his “other sheep”.(John 10:16)
2nd, he's about 1000 years off if he thinks the Aztecs were involved. Maya and Hopewell cultures maybe, that's the right time period.
The account of His visitation among the peoples of America can be read here:
“Um, Yes he was. All descendants of David were descendants of plural marriage. In fact so were Joseph and Mary.”
False. More specifically, mormonism falsehood.
“I knew exactly what resty was saying. Don’t accuse resty of embarrassing herself on this one. You are the one who is embarrassing himself.”
Then you are a better translator than most of us. I took her
words at face value with no imposed interpretation. And her
statement, like your own, was incorrect.
“Get a grip. You’re wrong. It happens. I’ve been wrong before. I admit when I’m wrong.”
Better do it again then because, “OOPS, It Happened Again...!”
In this case, Seven finally stated the truth that you and
Resty misrepresented.
best,
ampu
Go read 2 Samuel 12.
“Unless you can have two birth mothers and/or two biological Fathers, I think everyone falls into that category.”
Bingo. This is why the previous statements are wrong. Now
you’ve said it yourself.
Who is like the Beast?
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Looks like I won this time. You can’t be the beast all the time!! ;-)
Not to mention the fact that at the time the Book of Mormon was written, it fit in with what was, at that time, believed to be true about Quetzecoatl. Since that time, however, archaeologists have learned some new things about the Feathered Serpent... such as his requirement of human sacrifice... a requirement I have a hard time reconciling with my beliefs about Jesus.
Actually, if you read the account, wither or not you believe it's true, it lists many miracles done by Jesus among the people, showing them his power and compassion. Here's a sample:
http://scriptures.lds.org/3_ne/17/7#7
Hope you get feeling better Resty!
These new bugs are scary
I have been real good until I altered my diet a little and my body rebelled!
Was eating thing I know my body does not take too, to much carbs up set the ph balance.
I think I am going to take some Supergreens to reset the alkaline/acid.
InnerLight SuperGreens, created by Dr. Robert O. Young, are an exclusive, synergistic blend of 49 organic grasses, grains, and green vegetables. This nutrient-rich, alkaline formula helps to gently pull the blood and tissue balance from an acid base to an increasingly healthy alkaline state.
I think in a pinch one could eat cup and half of steamed Broccoli, Spinach, or Brussel Spouts with a tbs blend of EVVO, fresh garlic, Salmon or egg for protein.
It has healing properties
I give up AMPU. You’r intellect is too dazzling to compete with.
I have some iocane powder if you want to try some of that. ;-)
Just a simple question.
Was Jesus a descendant from the polygamous marriage between David and Bathsheeba?
Yes or no?
Then you are a better translator than most of us. I took her words at face value with no imposed interpretation.
No, you misinterpreted her statement. She has stated that what she meant was exactly what I interpreted it to mean, i.e., that Jesus was descended from people who were engaged in polygamy.
And her statement, like your own, was incorrect.
The question again: Was Jesus descended from the polygamous marriage of David and Bathsheeba?
Yes or No?
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