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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Sure, I understand that. It is CPS that is stating they have “yet to identify her” which in the context of their statment it means they can’t find her. As in she is not there.


401 posted on 04/06/2008 11:30:29 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

You just missed my post number 392. Look up two posts...


402 posted on 04/06/2008 11:32:00 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: greyfoxx39
 What utterly amazes me is that you seem to think the chants were worse than the actual events that occurred. After all, that's what you have chosen to herald here. Rather strange IMO.

Rather a broad indictment, including reading my mind and attributing motive to me.

I merely noted that it seemed to disturb you that chants about facing death were taking place.  You mentioned this.  You didn't mention that the kids were in fact killed.  You chose which of these realities to mention as problematic.  Am I being unfair to point that out?

Thanks for your comments. I know where you are coming from.

Obviously NOT!

I believe you have concern for the kids.  So do I.  I believe that it is possible to have concerns for the children's safety, and still be conserned for their rights and the rights of the adults.  Ripping kids out of a family setting can be very traumatic.  I would like to think there was a little more to go on than one or two phone calls from a sixteen year old to warrant what has taken place to this point.

If criminality is found, the process is probably going to be ignored.  If very little criminality is found, there are going to be some rather pointed questions for the local authorities down there to answer.

One of the things that bothers me the most about these tactics, is that folks seem to sign on to them without questions. Is this the type of law enforcement we want whenever criminality is suspected? If so, we're in for a bumpy ride.

403 posted on 04/06/2008 11:40:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: DoughtyOne

In this case I don’t think LE “stormed” the compound. I agree, even if we think these people are nuts, we should respect their rights. If there is a legitimate concern about abuse though, the LE authorities have to investigate. Up until now, although the locals weren’t thrilled with their presence, they tolerated them.


404 posted on 04/06/2008 11:50:58 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

It seems to me that some method could have been found to interrogate the kids at the farm. If just cause could then have been found, I’m all for escalating the situation.

This wholesale incarceration doesn’t set well with me.

I may be wrong, but I do find this troublesome.

I agree that they should have launched an investigation. I have no problem with that. If criminality is suspected, you have to.


405 posted on 04/06/2008 11:55:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
This bizzarre cult is a big reason that Rommney is not electable.

I'd rather see a Mormon like Romney POTUS than a lying phony corrupt "Christian" Democrat like Obama or Hillary.

406 posted on 04/06/2008 11:55:24 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: DoughtyOne

When I said LE, I meant real LE, not CPS. One of the updates said they found evidence and maybe that is why they began removing people.


407 posted on 04/06/2008 11:57:08 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

It seems to me that some method could have been found to interrogate the kids at the farm. If just cause could then have been found, I’m all for escalating the situation.

This wholesale incarceration doesn’t set well with me.

I may be wrong, but I do find this troublesome.

I agree that they should have launched an investigation. I have no problem with that. If criminality is suspected, you have to.

Folks can say what they want about these folks being flakes, but those buildings don’t look like the work of a bunch of losers.


408 posted on 04/06/2008 11:57:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Even a nut can build a solid building. Hitler proved that.


409 posted on 04/06/2008 11:58:20 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I would have voted for Romney in a second if I had thought he agreed with my view of conservatism. If these arrests had taken place and many convictions had been obtained, I wouldn’t judge him to have been of the same mind as the perps.

Are you saying you wouldn’t have voted for him based on his religion? I don’t think that’s your attitude. I don’t think a broad of cross section of society looks at this any differently than you or I do. And if they did, I’ll bet some education in the process of the political campaign would have convinced them otherwise.


410 posted on 04/06/2008 12:01:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: Republic of Texas

Yes but Hitler wasn’t limited to a 200 member community on a farm. Was this farm getting funding from other churches around the country?


411 posted on 04/06/2008 12:03:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: McCoMo

Ooooohhh, those big bad Baptist buses!

Really, who cares how they were brought out!

In fact they are staying at the Baptist Church. They are being fed and cared for by those evil baptists!

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412 posted on 04/06/2008 12:04:59 PM PDT by JRochelle (Voting Obama on May 6.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I believe it was.


413 posted on 04/06/2008 12:05:09 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

Well that could be. And if so, I suppose your point could be reasoned.

What happens if these people are held in local jails and lose their jobs? They lose the farm, the families are split to the far corners of the region, thirty charges are bought, and one or two people are convicted of anything on a count or two each?

Is the utter destruction of this community going to be justified?

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Perhaps much more criminality would be found, than I suspect.


414 posted on 04/06/2008 12:14:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I was contrasting character vs religion. Given the choice, I'd vote for a Mormon of character over a phony Christian.

If the candidate were a Conservative, he would most likely be of better character than a Liberal, IMHO.

415 posted on 04/06/2008 12:15:33 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: CindyDawg
I don’t understand the Baptist bashing here. What did we do?

The Baptist buses were used and the women and children are staying at the local Baptist Church. Can you not see how offensive that is? sarc/

416 posted on 04/06/2008 12:16:24 PM PDT by JRochelle (Voting Obama on May 6.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I agree MTR. Thanks for the follow-up comments.


417 posted on 04/06/2008 12:22:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: McCoMo

Actually the first buses went in on Thursday. The school buses were tied up, you know with schoolkids.


418 posted on 04/06/2008 12:33:50 PM PDT by JRochelle (Voting Obama on May 6.)
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To: MHGinTN

No worries, several of us have now been labeled as vipers!

Have you reached that kingdom yet?

:)


419 posted on 04/06/2008 12:41:00 PM PDT by JRochelle (Voting Obama on May 6.)
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To: JRochelle; CindyDawg

“I don’t understand the Baptist bashing here.”


On all Mormon threads there is an effort to demonize Baptists and often evangelicals, which the Mormons strive to identify only as Baptist, and for the Mormons to try to separate them from the pack of the other Christian churches.

I think the main reason is that the Mormons want to attempt to minimize the totality of agreement by their Christian opposition.

It does work, as you have seen on many threads, a lot of Catholics and other denominations don’t know that their church does not recognize Mormonism as Christian, and they sometimes see that view as a bigoted view limited to some hick evangelicals, especially many Catholics do not know the very clear position that the church takes on the Mormon cult.


420 posted on 04/06/2008 12:44:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (If your profit margin relies on criminality to suppress wages, then you deserve to be out.)
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