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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.

The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.

The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.

The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.

Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.

“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”

Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.

Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.

“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”

Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.

Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.

The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.

“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”

The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.

The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.

Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.

“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.

Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.

No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.

Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.

“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jeffs; lds; lyingfreepers; mormon; mormonism; pitcairnisland; pologamy; polygamy; romney; soapoperaresty; warrenjeffs
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To: conservativegramma
I for one am thoroughly disgusted and sickened at the complete evil I am seeing within the mainstream LDS DEFENDING these child rapists!!!

I for one am not defending these guys (I won't call them men) I hope they get the stiffest punishment allowable by law, or better yet, put them in General population with their crimes tattooed on their foreheads.

So much for the 'family friendly' sham.

Taint' no sham, Mam.

I mean I always knew the LDS was satanically inspired;

Here we go...

but with this FLDS news story the evil is so blatant that it can clearly be seen by anyone with a functioning braincell.

And the evil was perpetrated by men.

Its almost as if God is not mocked and is exposing this cult for what it is.

Yep, God is indeed exposing the People in Texas fro what they are...

Talk about whitewashed tombs...........

The nerve of people condemning others while they have unrepented sins...
3,121 posted on 04/14/2008 11:29:08 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Godzilla
DU’s post here follows the structure of an argument made by Michael W. Fordham of FAIR for the structure of his arguement

Do you have a link? I'd like to see how close I was in my approach...
3,122 posted on 04/14/2008 11:31:42 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Godzilla
BTW: >>it was the LXX that helped the early church move so quickly into the Greek world and it is cited in the NT far more than Enoch.<< Why have you dumped the extra books that are in the LXX? with the LXX you should have these <>
3,123 posted on 04/14/2008 11:32:39 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem

BTW: >>it was the LXX that helped the early church move so quickly into the Greek world and it is cited in the NT far more than Enoch.<< Why have you dumped the extra books that are in the LXX? with the LXX you should have these
>Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch …Some later LXX editions also add 1 Esdras, Odes, 3&4 Maccabees, etc http://catholic-resources.org/Courses/HB-LXX-OT.ppt.<


3,124 posted on 04/14/2008 11:35:25 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: DelphiUser
The essence of being a Mormon is proving that YOU are WORTHY. Apparently if you didn't get your Bishop's approval for a Temple Recommend, you could end up with that Bishop being married to YOUR WIFE for eternity!

Is this practice still going on?

So that is your around this you think the sister have to take a back seat because her husband is not interested in doing the right thing!

How selfish!

3,125 posted on 04/15/2008 12:06:59 AM PDT by restornu (They allow this little quibble over scripture to blind them!)
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To: conservativegramma; DelphiUser
I mean I always knew the LDS was satanically inspired;

I can understand your disagreeing but that snarky sarcasm does not come from someone who walks with the Lord.

So many are playing devils advocate while at the same time saying it in the name of God?

this so incongruous!

3,126 posted on 04/15/2008 12:12:15 AM PDT by restornu (They allow this little quibble over scripture to blind them!)
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To: conservativegramma; DelphiUser; Admin Moderator
I for one am thoroughly disgusted and sickened at the complete evil I am seeing within the mainstream LDS DEFENDING these child rapists!!!

Just which LDS are defending these child rapists?

I include the mod because I feel he might think the same and I don't want any miss understanding here!

At no time did any LDS have sex with someone who was underage!

Being sealed to someone is not having intercourse on earth, do you all understand that?

What happen in Eldorado rogue organization was Evil and I recent anyone here including mods thinking that was a legacy of the LDS.

3,127 posted on 04/15/2008 12:19:50 AM PDT by restornu (They allow this little quibble over scripture to blind them!)
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You can all try to paint with that brush but Heavenly Father knows the truth and the hearts and minds of those who like to insinuate these things!


3,128 posted on 04/15/2008 12:24:23 AM PDT by restornu (They allow this little quibble over scripture to blind them!)
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To: restornu; DelphiUser
Good all of you stop mocking and posting about the LDS and we will stop posting to you!:)

I want you to continue telling everyone about the LDS religion, Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, the "restored" gospel, and the "beauty" of polygamy.

People read these threads - and the education you have provided is invaluable in order for people to learn what you all really are about.

3,129 posted on 04/15/2008 3:05:34 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: DelphiUser
Loss of credibility for stating what I truly believe?

Nope. Loss of credibility for your mental gymnastics to justify what you have attempted to justify.

In this world, we have people who believe they are 100% correct no matter what the facts are. Just ask Hillary, Obama, or Code Pink.

See the Do not post to me thread. and don't talk about me or my church, wanna defame Mormons, I'll be there, setting the record straight.

Fine with me pal. I will speak the truth about the cult you defend with equal vigor.

3,130 posted on 04/15/2008 3:11:26 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: Elsie
How do you save ‘em to village photo?

Hanging head in shame right now.

3,131 posted on 04/15/2008 3:14:34 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: DelphiUser
Excuse me, but you have been thoroughly discredited on these boards. You are a liar and a deceiver who quote mines and distorts sources, that has been proven already. Furthermore you have been rebuked and defeated in every debate against Me and Godzilla.

As far as the family friendly sham - yes sir, excusing child and wife abuse is most definitely a sham.

And please don't talk to me about unrepented sin, you are deep in unrepented sin as long as you continue to regurgitate every satanically inspired lie out of the pits of hell spoken by the LDS and its false peepstone wife stealing couldn't keep it in his pants prophet.

3,132 posted on 04/15/2008 4:52:53 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma
thoroughly discredited on these boards.

Which boards?

3,133 posted on 04/15/2008 4:58:11 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: MHGinTN
Don’t defame my counting!

That's just your opinion!

3,134 posted on 04/15/2008 5:03:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem
In the Genesis record, Moses states that the sons of God/ben elohim took wives of the daughters of Adam/bath Adam, before and also after the flood, and nephillim =titans/giants, were born to them.

Neither of those 2 references showed this.

3,135 posted on 04/15/2008 5:06:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Just which LDS are defending these child rapists?

Uh, you have in post after post, may want to buy a new mirror.

At no time did any LDS have sex with someone who was underage!

Oh, now that's just laughable! Might want to look at your peepstone wife stealing couldn't keep it in his pants prophet again. Helen Mar Kimball is one. Todd Compton wrote: "Having married Joseph Smith at the age of fourteen, Helen Mar is the youngest of Smith’s known wives." (In Sacred Loneliness, page 487) You have been shown this again and again on these boards. You are either deliberately lying, illiterate, delusional, or just plain brainwashed.

Being sealed to someone is not having intercourse on earth...

LOL! This is classic lying apologetic response that ignores FACT:

"However, several of his wives and friends made statements that clearly show at least some of the marriages included sexual relations. Todd Compton explained:

For instance, Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner stated that she knew of children born to Smith's plural wives: "I know he had six wives and I have known some of them from childhood up. I know he had three children. They told me. I think two are living today but they are not known as his children as they go by other names." Melissa Lott Willes testified that she had been Smith's wife "in very deed." Emily Partridge Young said she "roomed" with Joseph the night following her marriage to him, and said that she had "carnal intercourse" with him.

Other early witnesses also affirmed this. Benjamin Johnson wrote: "On the 15th of May . . . the Prophet again Came and at my hosue [house] occupied the Same Room & Bed with my Sister that the month previous he had occupied with the Daughter of the Later Bishop Partridge as his wife." According to Joseph Bates Noble, Smith told him he had spent a night with Louisa Beaman" (In Sacred Loneliness, pp. 12-13).

3,136 posted on 04/15/2008 5:06:50 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Elsie

On CNN last night they said the phone calls from the 16 yr. old may have come from Colorado City AND TX. Some girl keeps calling a FLDS help line and they believe it’s the same one.

Some are saying the girl is in custody in San Angelo and some think she was whisked away by the FLDS.

It’s getting confusing!


3,137 posted on 04/15/2008 5:08:39 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: SkyPilot
I want you to continue telling everyone about the LDS religion, Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, the "restored" gospel, and the "beauty" of polygamy.

People read these threads - and the education you have provided is invaluable in order for people to learn what you all really are about.

AMEN!!!!!!!!! The truth is getting out there and people are sickened by what they are seeing...........

3,138 posted on 04/15/2008 5:08:48 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Colofornian
 What? You mean I don’t get #4000 after #3099?

 

Oh foolish Gentiles!

Who has bewitched you?

This kind of math is covered in our Atrticles of Faith, numbers 6&7, if you only understood them!

--MormonDude(Let me help:)


 
 


 

Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 

 

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

 

3,139 posted on 04/15/2008 5:11:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
That is so silly he was sharing with his mother who join the Presbyterian church...

So much for HONORING your Father & Mother!!

Did he BOTHER to tell her just what was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANISM?

Perhaps YOU could enlighten us.

3,140 posted on 04/15/2008 5:13:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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