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Riddle me this resty - why did joey lie about having multiple wives while at the same time teaching his followers that polygamy was forbidden???

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It was not forbidden when under the direction of the Lord.

Joseph followers knew it only those who would be antagonist were not privy to know.

They had no need to know of God’s business with his people.

2,701 posted on 04/12/2008 7:48:31 PM PDT by restornu ( Pandora's box is being unleashed)

Read verse 30 again, spinster... 30: For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people to NOT take multiple wives!!

(That worked out really well!)

2,702 posted on 04/12/2008 7:52:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

“My desire to be there is to see the look on your face or any others who have given the LDS on this side such a hard time!”

When I think you are incorrect, I am concerned about what your fate will be, and fear that if I am right, your fate will end up badly. On the other hand, when you think others are incorrect, rather than fearing for their fate, you look forward, with glee, to seeing the fate you believe will happen being carried out.

Interesting perspective you have... I wonder which one the Lord would approve of more.

2,703 posted on 04/12/2008 7:54:17 PM PDT by McCoMo (Chronologically inept since 2060)

I guess I really could blow up the whole system that way.

I doubt it.

Other than plugging your computer into the SPEAKER outlets (which might hurt the computer), there is not enough power anywhere to hurt either system.

2,704 posted on 04/12/2008 7:54:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Orthodox Christians rally have diminished the role Abraham plays to that of a vulgar and lascivious father of nations, rather than a prophet and patriarch of God.

Wannabe Christians really have AUGMENTed the role Abraham plays to that of a type of Joseph Smith (who WASN'T a) father of nations; rather than a FAITHFUL man who obeyed GOD.

2,705 posted on 04/12/2008 7:58:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Well, I have never said it is not possible to walk a more upright life, but I do not believe it is possible for any of us to walk in perfection (at least not in this world). For that reason... for the shortcomings we will have, the Grace of the Lord and Christ will take up the slack.

More than nearly anything else you should fear the day that you come to believe you ARE walking in perfection, for on that day you are lost.

That is what is ment in

2 Nephi 25
23 For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.

We are to have faith and exercise it in doing the will of the Lord and he will make up the difference for us that is the grace part!

All those who believe in Christ have grace in general, but your reward comes by how much effort you put into striving to keep his comandments.

Matt. 10:
41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward.

42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

Matt. 16:
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Rev. 22:
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

2,706 posted on 04/12/2008 8:02:13 PM PDT by restornu ( Pandora's box is being unleashed)

2,707 posted on 04/12/2008 8:02:15 PM PDT by CindyDawg

Ah.. but without the grace of Christ.. no matter what your works, you are never going to be able to win your way to Heaven. All of us fall short, none of us are worthy based strictly on our works. Our obligation is to strive to the best of our ability.. whether or not we have done so only God will be able to judge.

2,708 posted on 04/12/2008 8:06:18 PM PDT by McCoMo (Chronologically inept since 2060)

I know the Lord loves you and most likely if you are not evil you will find know the way and there are those on this side doing vicarious work for all of the Lord’s children!

This is what the thousand years of peace is for so those who have been deceived but did live a good life on earth have a change to accept the gift or to refuse it!

Remember the Lord gave each of us free will so each will beable to choose.

2,709 posted on 04/12/2008 8:07:33 PM PDT by restornu ( Pandora's box is being unleashed)

Gen. 20: 7
Now therefore restore the man his wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live: and if thou restore her not, know thou that thou shalt surely die, thou, and all that are thine.

Prophets HERE!

Prophets THERE!

Seems like Prophets EVERYWHERE!

1 Samuel 10:5
"After that you will go to Gibeah of God, where there is a Philistine outpost. As you approach the town, you will meet a procession of prophetS coming down from the high place with lyres, tambourines, flutes and harps being played before them, and they will be prophesying.

1 Samuel 10:10-13
10. When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophetS met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying.
11. When all those who had formerly known him saw him prophesying with the prophetS, they asked each other, "What is this that has happened to the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophetS?"
12. A man who lived there answered, "And who is their father?" So it became a saying: "Is Saul also among the prophetS?"
13. After Saul stopped prophesying, he went to the high place.

1 Samuel 19:19-24
19. Word came to Saul: "David is in Naioth at Ramah";
20. so he sent men to capture him. But when they saw a group of prophetS prophesying, with Samuel standing there as their leader, the Spirit of God came upon Saul's men and they also prophesied.
21. Saul was told about it, and he sent more men, and they prophesied too. Saul sent men a third time, and they also prophesied.
22. Finally, he himself left for Ramah and went to the great cistern at Secu. And he asked, "Where are Samuel and David?" "Over in Naioth at Ramah," they said.
23. So Saul went to Naioth at Ramah. But the Spirit of God came even upon him, and he walked along prophesying until he came to Naioth.
24. He stripped off his robes and also prophesied in Samuel's presence. He lay that way all that day and night. This is why people say, "Is Saul also among the prophetS?"

1 Samuel 28:5-6
5. When Saul saw the Philistine army, he was afraid; terror filled his heart.
6. He inquired of the LORD, but the LORD did not answer him by dreams or Urim or prophetS.

1 Kings 18:4
While Jezebel was killing off the LORD's prophetS, Obadiah had taken a hundred prophetS and hidden them in two caves, fifty in each, and had supplied them with food and water.)

1 Kings 18:13
Haven't you heard, my lord, what I did while Jezebel was killing the prophetS of the LORD? I hid a hundred of the LORD's prophetS in two caves, fifty in each, and supplied them with food and water.

Here we have the model for the Living Prophet of the LDS Organization:

1 Kings 22:19-22
19. Micaiah continued, "Therefore hear the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne with all the host of heaven standing around him on his right and on his left.
20. And the LORD said, `Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?' "One suggested this, and another that.
21. Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, `I will entice him.'
22. " `By what means?' the LORD asked. " `I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophetS ,' he said. " `You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. `Go and do it.'

2,710 posted on 04/12/2008 8:11:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Only about 20 percent of marriages during that time were. There were very strict rules regarding who could and who couldn’t. Most were related to righteousness and not perverting the system though lasciviousness.

"Extra nookie for ME, but none for THEE - you Not_as_HOLY_as_ME person!"

2,711 posted on 04/12/2008 8:14:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I have heard from many anti Mormons on here calling Abraham a horny pedophile, adulterer, one who couldn't keep in it his pants, etc.

Strange... I've been in these threads all along; and I have not noticed this.

Perhaps you have some PROOF?

2,712 posted on 04/12/2008 8:15:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I do not dispute anything in that post.

Nice to be able to say that once in a while.

2,713 posted on 04/12/2008 8:16:27 PM PDT by McCoMo (Chronologically inept since 2060)

I think Resty would have been insulted.

I agree with you.

2,714 posted on 04/12/2008 8:16:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

2,715 posted on 04/12/2008 8:17:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Speaking for myself, hatred implies a certain measure of importance in a persons mind, and you are not significant enough to qualify.

If you are NOT going to play along...

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO defend YOURSELF with thousands of words; you, you... GENTILE you!

--MormonDude(Sheesh!)

2,716 posted on 04/12/2008 8:18:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

This system is so very complicated!

Maybe it is; but just to you!

2,717 posted on 04/12/2008 8:19:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Correction, when I say I do not dispute what any of that post, I must amend it in one respect, in that I am unsure of what you mean precisely by “there are those on this side doing vicarious work for all of the Lord’s children!” After answering I realized that I can see multiple possible meanings to that phrase, so my agreement is conditional to what you mean.

2,718 posted on 04/12/2008 8:19:27 PM PDT by McCoMo (Chronologically inept since 2060)

I don't understand your reply I said in general all who believe in Christ are saved meaning they have grace.

Now as far as reward goes that depends on how much effort your put into striving to Keepping the Lord's commandments.

Some put in 10%, 50% etc the Lord knows our hearts and minds and how much were really were making an effort.

Are you one of those who think that the person who only put in 10% should get the same reward as the one who put in 90%?

BTW works here means getting your attitude as close as possible to teachings that the Lord Jesus Christ showed us to do.

We don't really do it from a personal self disciplend; it is something as we summit ourselves to the Lord that grows within us, the enabling comes by the atonement of Jesus Christ!

2,719 posted on 04/12/2008 8:20:48 PM PDT by restornu ( Pandora's box is being unleashed)

If I am not allowed to defend the honor of my faith against the very real horndogs in Texas, then what's the point of Freedom of speech?

Go ahead and defend.

The jury has returned and found LDS to be wanting.

2,720 posted on 04/12/2008 8:21:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

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