Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot
From what I have read, the community wasn’t happy about them but adults are free to live as they choose. As soon as they got a complaint they acted.
Ditto that.
They need to throw that tar baby out.
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It looks that way!
I have NO IDEA what you are trying to say.
There is one covenant for the Children of Israel and another covenant for the Children of Ishmael.
God said that he would bless Ishmael and multiply him, that he would beget twelve chiefs and make him a great nation; however, this IS NOT a covenant.
And you still have not answered my most important question, is Ishmael the legimate heir of Abraham? YES or NO
More.
Read this.
Birth defect is plaguing children in FLDS towns
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,635182923,00.html
What?
Do a search on my posts and you will see I have been posting consistently ever since I joined FreeRepublic in 1999.
BTW, I have never posted anything on this thread to suggest that I support anything going on with the cult in Eldorado.
I just believe that it is unfair to lump all Mormons in with what is going on in Eldorado, and it is a waste of bandwidth to be trying to convert Mormons, or more likely merely antagonize Mormons.
It's one thing to discuss how this case is similar to or differs from the Waco case, or how this case relates to church/state relations. But to turn this into a sophomoric attempt to attack people who by and large agree with most Catholics, Protestants, and conservative Jews on matters of public policy is counterproductive.
“Good stuff here too and they will pack and ship to our military”
I was a young soldier once, nothing would have made me happier than receiving that kind of hard core man food.
Send a woman chocolate cake, but send a man smoked meats.
I don't support the Eldorado Temple crowd. My only complaint is that this thread is being used to castigate all members of the LDS church. Which is just silly and counterproductive.
Conservatives of all faiths should be trying to regroup rather than coming up with reasons to remain splintered.
I never said you did, so who's wet?
In a dusty neighborhood under sheer sandstone cliffs studded with juniper on the Arizona-Utah border, a rare genetic disorder is spreading through polygamous families on a wave of inbreeding.
The twin border communities of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz., have the worlds highest known prevalence of fumarase deficiency, an enzyme irregularity that causes severe mental retardation brought on by cousin marriage, doctors say.
Arizona has about half the worlds population of known fumarase deficiency patients, said Dr. Theodore Tarby, a pediatric neurologist who has treated many of the children at Arizona clinics under contracts with the state.
It exists in a certain percentage of the broader population but once you get a tendency to inbreed youre inbreeding people who have the gene there, so you markedly increase the risk of developing the condition, he said.
The community of about 10,000 people, who shun outsiders and are taught to avoid newspapers, television and the Internet, is home to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS), a sect that broke from the mainstream Mormon church 72 years ago over polygamy.
The group, who wear conservative 19th-century clothing, is led by Warren Jeffs, who was arrested in August and charged as an accomplice to rape for using his authority to order a 14-year-old girl against her wishes to marry and have sex with her 19-year-old cousin.
Doctors in the area declined requests for interviews and families refuse to talk to reporters. But former FLDS members, independent doctors and authorities say the disorder appears to have struck at least 20 children in the past 15 years.
The disease itself is very rare in the rest of the world, said Dr. Vinodh Narayanan of Arizonas St. Josephs Hospital & Medical Center and Barrow Neurological Institute. Doctors worldwide had only studied about 10 cases just a decade ago.
Once you get people within the same community marrying, then the chances grow of having two people carrying the exact same mutation.
Closed door
Local historian Benjamin Bistline said 75 to 80 percent of people in the area are blood relatives of two men John Y. Barlow and Joseph Smith Jessop who founded the sect on the remote desert plateau in the early 1930s.
There arent any new people coming in. Its a closed door and that gene just keeps getting passed around, said Bruce Wisan, a court-appointed accountant overseeing a trust of the sects assets.
Dr. Leslie Biesecker, chief of the Genetic Disease Research Branch at the National Institutes of Health, said the bad gene could have been introduced after the original founding families settled there. Any person who joined that community could have brought that mutation with them, he said.
Tarby, who has recently retired, said he first observed the problem when an FLDS couple came to a Phoenix clinic about 15 years ago with a 10-year-old boy suffering from a degenerative condition. He sent a urine sample to a lab in Colorado for analysis and was stunned by the diagnosis.
Since then, increasing numbers of children in the community have been stricken with the disease, which causes unusual facial features, frequent epileptic seizures, episodes of coma and possibly early death.
In the disorder, brain cells fail to receive enough fuel to grow, multiply and function properly because of a missing enzyme needed to generate energy from food, causing severe mental retardation and muscle control problems.
Tarby met with about 150 FLDS members in November, explaining that the disorder was not caused by tainted drinking water as rumored but by cousin marriage.
But even with that knowledge, it is still hard for people to leave the sect, said Brenda Jensen, 55, who fled the FLDS several years ago and now works for the Utah-based HOPE Organization, which helps women leave.
If they are willing to marry their cousin, or unwilling but do it anyway, or even in a relationship that is closer than that, it can be very hard for them, Jensen said.
And local habits are deeply ingrained, authorities say.
They will tell you if thats what God wants for you than thats what you will get, said Gary Engels, an investigator assigned to Colorado City by the Mohave County attorneys office. They dont think too much about marrying cousins and things like that.
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The link was MSNBC but has been removed.
My son sent me an e-mail from his ship. “Send Beef Jerky”
THAT line brought us the Messiah, no matter how many foxes in the henhouse/snakes_in_the_grass were in it.
When Christ died and rose again for ME, His 'it is finished' ended the WORK of the Cross.
All that is left, is to tell the world about His sacrifice and grace.
"We don't need no steenkin' Restored Gospel®!"
Here in Missouri they use the card too, but it is still food stamps. OUR f*$%^#%$#^ing tax money!!!
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Report me to the teacher after recess!
??WHAT??
You post before you check out the accuracy of your allegations?
Who knew!!
And you've learned well; Grasshopper!
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