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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.

The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.

The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.

The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.

Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.

“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”

Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.

Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.

“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”

Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.

Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.

The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.

“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”

The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.

The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.

Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.

“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.

Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.

No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.

Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.

“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jeffs; lds; lyingfreepers; mormon; mormonism; pitcairnisland; pologamy; polygamy; romney; soapoperaresty; warrenjeffs
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To: Osage Orange

Or it was “out of context”, half truth, blah blah blah


2,041 posted on 04/10/2008 8:58:31 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: restornu

If remarriage after divorce is considered adultery by God, then why isn’t another marriage WHILE STILL MARRIED?

Of course, it’s adultery. You get married. Sex outside of marriage is adultery, so any other *marriage* would also fall into that category.


2,042 posted on 04/10/2008 9:00:09 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ansel12

Good stuff here too and they will pack and ship to our military.

2,043 posted on 04/10/2008 9:00:42 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: greyfoxx39; All

More mormon “celestial” eternal marriage BS. That what the FLDS believe, too. Their temple ordinances are probably the same as the LDS.

****

Ouch! more uncharitable love inflicted towards the LDS

BTW thank you for the few who could see at least the LDS are not anything like the FLDS.

Your comments met a lot toward goodwill and healing.


2,044 posted on 04/10/2008 9:00:42 AM PDT by restornu ( Pandora's box is being unleashed)
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To: greyfoxx39

Well that info came directly from the King of translation.


2,045 posted on 04/10/2008 9:02:36 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: metmom

More examples of FLDerangement Syndrome.

From the SLTrib comments section.

Note the “I am not a member of the LDS church.” Probably FLDS.


I am not a member of the LDS church. I have never been a member of the LDS church. I come from a long line of evangelicals...as previously mentioned, my grandfather was a preacher for over 60 years (the last 40 of those years he pastored his own large church).

I have read the Bible cover to cover about 25 times or so in my life. I’ve read the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine and Covenants cover to cover once and have and continue to do numerous spot studies of Mormon literature (I’ve also read the Koran cover to cover once ). I just don’t think, I *know* that Joseph Smith was and is a prophet.

It disturbs me to see people irresponsibly throwing out false charges about people, especially righteous people.

One such false charge was that all Joseph Smith did was marry teenage girls. This is demonstrably false.

Simply go to

http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org

and you will see that about 40% of all of his wives were IN EXCESS OF 30 YEARS OF AGE at the time of their marriage to Joseph Smith. About 10% of his wives were 50 years of age OR OLDER (the oldest was 58). The breakdown of their ages were thusly:

22
16
37
26
20
31
33
23
23
47
27
50
53
37
38
17
37
33
16
19
22
30
17
17
19
14
29
29
58
32
27
19
14
56

Joseph Smith was born in 1805 and was martyred in 1844. I don’t think he had quite turned 39 before he was murdered in cold blood by a vigilante crowd (my guess is that crowd was mainly composed of ‘good’ Baptists and Methodists and the like...you know, religious types like the posters here who have been the tool of the Devil since the time of Cain, son of Perdition). So many of Joseph’s wives were as much as 20 years (or MORE) OLDER than him....righteous polygyny is about raising up Righteous Seed, it’s about spiritual and emotional love and intimacy, and yes, it’s about sex. But it’s not all about sex (not for the Righteous).

It’s only all about sex for the Devilish worldly people. And I’m referring to THEIR private “monogamous” lives.

But the ignorant will continue to spew their ignorance...


2,046 posted on 04/10/2008 9:03:13 AM PDT by JRochelle
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To: wagglebee
Yet somewhere along the line the Lord did give Ishmael and his people a covenant!

So, you believe that God has a covenant with the Muslims?

Do you accept Ishael as Abraham's legitimate heir?

What the Lord has with his people is that up to us to contend?

There is one covenant for the Children of Israel and another covenant for the Children of Ishmael.

2,047 posted on 04/10/2008 9:04:25 AM PDT by restornu ( Pandora's box is being unleashed)
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To: restornu
Oh, the poor, persecuted mormons. /s

LOL, show me some of the "charitable love" in your posts to me. As a matter of fact, I do NOT have any kind of love for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, NOR for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

2,048 posted on 04/10/2008 9:04:30 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (New apologist mantra..and defense.."love the POLYGAMY sin" but hate the sinner.")
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To: metmom
This is still scripture from the LDS Church.

Doctrine & Covenants, section 132.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/132

To the LDS Church Leaders I have one admonition.

HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SECTION 132!!!!

2,049 posted on 04/10/2008 9:05:08 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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And this post explains the beds in the temple!


prattletale, Maybe the beds are for out of State Temple goers, to rest on between sealings. Sealings are not done in five minutes. Don’t know about the beds, but I bet none of them are for sex. Its the only temple for the FLDS, and I bet it has been busy, even for very eldery people, to finally seal thier ancesters.
Texas will regret intruding in a temple, before this is over.


2,050 posted on 04/10/2008 9:05:33 AM PDT by JRochelle
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To: JRochelle; Elsie; MHGinTN

There are a couple of Inmans who have charts on the ages of Smith’s wives. I’m sure they will be coming along.


2,051 posted on 04/10/2008 9:06:23 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (New apologist mantra..and defense.."love the POLYGAMY sin" but hate the sinner.")
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To: wagglebee
Which begs the question, why are so many Mormons defending FLDS?

Ya whack the root; the tree'll die...

Matthew 3:10
The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.

(Hint: good fruit ISN'T good works!)

2,052 posted on 04/10/2008 9:08:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JRochelle

ain’t buying it.


2,053 posted on 04/10/2008 9:09:25 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: metmom
My understanding is that it is the official position of the LDS that polygamy is wrong.

I tend to 'understand' it differently.

The official position of the LDS that polygamy is ILLEGAL.

THEREFORE, since they do NOT want to be LAW breakers (they brag about obeying GOD'S laws; too), they go along with this:

1 Corinthians 6:12
"Everything is permissible for me"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"--but I will not be mastered by anything.

2,054 posted on 04/10/2008 9:13:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JRochelle
Even the ex-mormons are having a problem with the bed in the temple:

HERE

For the record, I never even heard any rumors of such a thing in the LDS temple.

2,055 posted on 04/10/2008 9:14:37 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (New apologist mantra..and defense.."love the POLYGAMY sin" but hate the sinner.")
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To: JRochelle

All those wives by the tie he was 39?!?!?

My capacity to accept much more of this is being stretched to the limit.


2,056 posted on 04/10/2008 9:20:31 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JRochelle

The only regret they’re going to have is not going after this group like this sooner.


2,057 posted on 04/10/2008 9:22:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
My capacity to accept much more of this is being stretched to the limit.

LOL. I as sure we will be hearing a lot more stuff from the FLDS that we will find hard to believe.

2,058 posted on 04/10/2008 9:23:37 AM PDT by JRochelle
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To: metmom
My understanding is that it is the official position of the LDS that polygamy is wrong. Some Mormons on this thread have held to that position. Many, who claim to not be FLDS, claim that polygamy is OK.

Oh heck!
Let's just ASK them!!

 
http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=a27704c176d9f010VgnVCM100000176f620aRCRD&vgnextchannel=3e0511154963d010VgnVCM1000004e94610aRCRD
 
 
  • The standard doctrine of the Church is monogamy, as it always has been, as indicated in the Book of Mormon (Jacob chapter 2): “Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none. … For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.” 

    In other words, the standard of the Lord’s people is monogamy unless the Lord reveals otherwise.  Latter-day Saints believe the season the Church practiced polygamy was one of these exceptions. 

(Looks like they can't make up their minds even now!!)



 

they are in violation of the law of this Church...

 HELLO!

I'd like to SEE this 'law'!

2,059 posted on 04/10/2008 9:24:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
My understanding is that it is the official position of the LDS that polygamy is wrong. Some Mormons on this thread have held to that position. Many, who claim to not be FLDS, claim that polygamy is OK.

It's no WONDER that the LDS members in these threads spout this stuff!!
 
 At various times, the Lord has commanded His people to practice plural marriage. For example, He gave this command to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, and Solomon (Doctrine and Covenants 132:1).
 
Found here --> http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/glossary/glossary-definition/polygamy

2,060 posted on 04/10/2008 9:25:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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