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The Latest CBS News/New York Times Poll (polling hijinx analyzed)
The New Editor ^ | April 4, 2008 | Tom Elia

Posted on 04/05/2008 10:42:58 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy

The CBS News/New York Times poll has both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton leading John McCain in head-to-head races by five points.

According to the poll, Obama leads McCain 47% to 42%, with Clinton leading McCain 48% to 43%.

As always, it is important to see how the poll's respondents break down by party -- a look which shows that those questioned self-identified 39% Dem, 28% Repub, and 33% independent in the unweighted sample. The weighted sample broke down 40% Dem, 26% Repub, and 34% independent.

The unweighted sample shows an 11-point margin for the Dems, while the weighted sample shows a 14-point margin.

Two ways to judge the accuracy of the poll's 11-point margin favoring Dem respondents might include some historical perspective of other presidential elections and how the CBS News/New York Times poll did forecasting the last national elections.

In the 27 elections since 1900, four Democratic Party presidential candidates won by more than 10% points: in 1912, Woodrow Wilson won by 14.4% over a split Repub ticket of Theodore Roosevelt and President Taft; in 1932, FDR beat President Hoover by 17.8%; in 1936, President Roosevelt beat Alf Landon by 24.3%; in 1964, President Johnson beat Barry Goldwater by 22.6%.

In the 2006 mid-term elections, when the Dems beat the Repubs by about 7.5% in the aggregate House vote, the last CBS News/New York Times poll before the 2006 mid-terms forecast a Dem margin of victory of 18%, missing by about 10 points.

Viewing the most recent CBS News/New York Times poll through those two historical prisms might give added perspective on the accuracy of this, most recent poll.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; agenda; cbsnews; fraud; media; nyt
Bottom line: Dems favor Dems over McCain. Who else has time and inclination to waste several minutes on the phone with an anonymous poller? This is yet another agenda-driven attempt at persuasion crudely disguised as objective information. MSM political analysis is essentially a political infomercial: It looks like news or analysis but is really trying to sell you something. Unfortunately, the political version seems to actually fool people.

As I have said before, the media-industrial complex is not the free press of the Founding Fathers. It is an unelected and unaccountable shadow government whose policies and actions are determined solely by the prejudices, self-interest, and depraved value system of its elitist members.

This is also why I do not believe the left will push a revival of the Orwellian-named "fairness doctrine." Left-wing anti-free speech activists make a lot of noise about silencing Limbaugh et al, but that is window-dressing and hype for the Che t-shirt wearing, media-worshipping consumer units who make up the rank and file of the pop-left.

The last thing the real leaders of the left want is a court test of the fairness of their own media. That WILL happen if the "fairness doctrine" takes loyal Americans off the air.

1 posted on 04/05/2008 10:42:58 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy
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To: atomic conspiracy
ahhhh,... another C poll.
2 posted on 04/05/2008 10:48:39 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Thanks for this. I remember CNN had generic Dems over Repubs by 20% last time, too. Where does someone go to sue for political malpractice? Missing by 5% is pathetic enough, but they missed by 12 or 13!


3 posted on 04/05/2008 10:51:28 AM PDT by guitarist
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To: atomic conspiracy
In the 2006 mid-term elections, when the Dems beat the Repubs by about 7.5% in the aggregate House vote, the last CBS News/New York Times poll before the 2006 mid-terms forecast a Dem margin of victory of 18%, missing by about 10 points.

The article gives us reason not to believe what the author has to say.

4 posted on 04/05/2008 10:55:23 AM PDT by paudio (Michelle Obama: a Typical Black Woman)
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To: atomic conspiracy

How cruel of them Democrats to beat a poor old defenseless war veteran, shame on Clinton and Obama, though Obama may find the old fella a little tougher to beat then polls suggest.


5 posted on 04/05/2008 10:57:06 AM PDT by Son House (Democrat High Tax Rates Suppress Opportunity and Jobs..)
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To: atomic conspiracy

When they call here, I hang up. Maybe there needs to be a poll on who is most likely to sit and answer poll questions - Democrats, Republicans, or Independents. But how could that be acomplished?


6 posted on 04/05/2008 11:04:53 AM PDT by ElmoMobito
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To: Son House
This poll is a load of

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Obama looks good to some only due to the intra-party opposition. But he's an empty suit with a thin resume, a dubious past, and friends who have serious Whitey issues. McCain will beat him like he owes him rent money. I have a strong feeling that a bloc of Klintonistas - petty and venomous as they are - will vote for McCain out of spite. Broomhillary will do Herself in if ol' Bat Ears falls victim to the Klinton & Ko. Korruption Machine - a lot of Obama moderates are going to take a hard look at her and realize there's no way in Hell they could pull the lever for eight more years of her and The Bent One.


7 posted on 04/05/2008 11:36:04 AM PDT by Viking2002 (I hope the AG pounds the Mann Act up Spitzer's ass with a sharp stick.)
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