Companies flood U.S. government with visa requests

Reuters ^ | 1April 2008 | Reuters

[kipita]

"These people really contribute to the business climate of the country."

..by doing work that many Americans can do at 30% of the wages with no long term benefits.

Given this and many similar actions by many "Americans", those who serve in the military, teach our children, protect our citizens, etc, for altruism have little to no value in 21st century American society based on "Global values".

[central_va]

These heroic “Captains of Industry” understand the laws of supply and demand except when it comes to prevailing wages, then they “cheat” and undercut the American middle class by importing H1b wage slaves. Some system we got here. Only in America(And I mean that, this CAN ONLY HAPPEN in America).

[Cowboy Bob]

"This leaves Cisco and other U.S. companies at a competitive disadvantage if we cannot access the best and the brightest workers," said Heather Dickinson, a spokeswoman for network equipment maker Cisco Systems Inc.

US companies are at a disadvantage to whom?

If the foreign citizens are so superior to Americans, when why don't these companies open up more offices overseas?

[kipita]

Only in America(And I mean that, this CAN ONLY HAPPEN in America).

Exactly

My personal story was a career change from being an analytical environmental chemist to MCSE, MCDBA and CCNA due to schools set-up with federal matching funds based on industry's demand based on the H1B program. After graduating, 15 students were given opportunities to work at circuit city and similar 10 per hour jobs. After being in Europe for about 5 years, I can tell you that this CAN HAPPEN ONLY IN AMERICA!

[LibLieSlayer]

“why don’t these companies open up more offices overseas?”

They do not want to go BOOM!

LLS

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Well, things are back to normal. Both my immigration links work again, and I picked up some posts that weren't available yesterday...

(Illegal) Immigration bill protects anonymity (in TN)

Bush Administration to Issue Waivers to Build U.S.-Mexico Border Fence

Rules to Be Waived for Border Fence

Mexico Offers Free Transport, Services to Illegal Immigrants Expelled by U.S.

The Immigrant Gap

Where U.S.-Mexico border fence is tall, border crossings fall

Bush pulls rank to finish fence (Bypasses environmental laws, ...to complete 670-mile barrier)

Construction skid sidelines Latino immigrant workers (illegals & subprime mortgage failures)

Arizona motel owners sentenced for using businesses to harbor illegal aliens

Ruben Navarrette Jr.: 'Mexicrats'

Us to Help Egypt Build Border Fence

Another Wave of H-1Bs on the Way

[1rudeboy]

If the foreign citizens are so superior to Americans, when why don't these companies open up more offices overseas?

OMGLOL--I can't believe you just said that on this thread.

[1rudeboy]

. . . ..by doing work that many Americans can do at 30% of the wages with no long term benefits.

Don't know about the 30% thing, that sounds rather dramatic, but I'd call getting a green card a long term benefit.

[cyberkada]

... and if you are American, you have no chance at one of these jobs, even at 30% of the “standard” wage.

Hint: who owne or operates 8/10 of the top IT placement firms in the U.S.?

Why are certain jobs reserved for H1B visa holders? (source: U.S. DOL and The Programmer’s Guild)

Lets hope the Clinton (D-Punjab) doesn’t get elected.

[cyberkada]

You have that right. I am forced to work overseas (for a good Japanese company) because I was unwilling to change my career field (15 years programming, training and other IT experience).

Every recruiter I talked to - and I did play the Asian card (I’m the wrong type of Asian) - was not American (OK for except one in Milwaukee for a position in Fondulac). They wanted H1Bs and it was pretty much stated in the Position Announcements. I thought wrongly as an native-born American that they can’t discriminate. Was I wrong.

[kipita]

Don't know about the 30% thing, that sounds rather dramatic, but I'd call getting a green card a long term benefit.

From a business perspective, I'd say the IT engineers from India and China are better at US market value based on their skills. But if business decisions are made purely based on market forces, then let the loyal patriotic Americans know and get rid of the flag and replace it with a global symbol. My personal opinion is that America is headed where old Europe was (with the Dow replacing gold and intelligence replacing Aristocracy) and Old Europe is headed where America was many years ago.

[kipita]

Lets hope the Clinton (D-Punjab) doesn’t get elected.

I like both of your comments in response to this article as you have much more relevant experience than I do about the IT market. I'd also like to know the answer to the questions you proposed because I really don't know and I'm sure many FRiends would like to know.

[1rudeboy]

I’m just saying, from a cultural perspective, we should encourage skilled workers who want to be here and are here legally to remain here. And I’m not talking about opening the floodgates, either. Maybe, in a slowing economy, 65,000 is too high. But in a growing economy it is not.

[Wolfie]

U.S. companies flooded the government with visa applications for highly skilledlower paid foreign workers...

[Wolfie]

There’s always the military. They’re not outsourcing the dying, just the way of life it’s meant to protect.

[grey_whiskers]

GE, IBM, Cisco, Dell, and Microsoft do.

[kipita]

I’m just saying, from a cultural perspective, we should encourage skilled workers who want to be here and are here legally to remain here. And I’m not talking about opening the floodgates, either. Maybe, in a slowing economy, 65,000 is too high. But in a growing economy it is not.

Having worked within the MIC for 11 years, I tend to strongly agree with the statement "I’m just saying, from a cultural perspective, we should encourage skilled workers who want to be here and are here legally to remain here" as this strategy has been America's success. The brilliant "unwanted, disrespected, troublesome" minds from around the world has made America a great country. But the driving forces of the Dow and a "purely intellectual/"powers that be" based society" leads to an old European based society.

[kipita]

There’s always the military. They’re not outsourcing the dying, just the way of life it’s meant to protect.

That may have been yesterday's military but today's military is "cost plus contracts" and "green card soliders" and "lower the standard to get soliders at market value".

[metmom]

Why bother when you can just sneak in illegally and not worry about running the risk of being deported for not following the absurdly restrictive rules?

[EagleUSA]

Since when is following the law been a requirement for entering the United States??? Ask 20 million illegals that don’t obey laws, and don’t have to.