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Red Baron film celebrates German war hero
Telegraph,co.uk ^ | 01/04/2008 | Harry de Quetteville

Posted on 04/01/2008 3:16:51 PM PDT by wolf78

After decades of war-related silence and shame, Germany proudly celebrated a military hero last night, rolling out the red carpet for "Red" Baron von Richthofen.

The new attitude was on display as stars and celebrities, including British actor Joseph Fiennes, were due to gather for the Berlin premiere of a new film about the Baron.

It is set to mark a new departure for German war films, which usually reflect on the extremism, suffering and even lunacy of the Nazi era ­ if they get made at all.

The Red Baron in contrast, portrays a brilliant and honourable military figure whose life and early death in combat Germans can celebrate without blush.

The film, which at £14 million is one of Germany's most expensive productions, stars Matthias Schweighoefer as the renowned pilot thought to have shot down about 80 Allied airmen in World War One.

It is based on a biography of the pilot published last year, which opens with him engaged in a dogfight only to pull out when he sees his adversary's gun jammed.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; redbaron; richthofen; vonrichthofen; wwii
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1 posted on 04/01/2008 3:16:52 PM PDT by wolf78
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2 posted on 04/01/2008 3:19:08 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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The chivalry but was complete B.S., of course.

The Red Barron was very keen on the easy kill (like any soldier, really).

I say that with MWT, Sr, Sr, having been a soldier for the Germans in WWI, with his father being awarded a Blue Max (which I own).


3 posted on 04/01/2008 3:21:04 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: wolf78

Lets see them make a film about Erik Hartmann, then I’ll be impressed. The Baron has been in many other films over the years.


4 posted on 04/01/2008 3:21:18 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( Clinton/Obama .. Obama/ Clinton ... Mc Cain/Obama .. Mc Cain/Clinton ... What a Choice!? Puleeeze!)
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To: wolf78
Snoopy would NOT be happy...


5 posted on 04/01/2008 3:21:42 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Shalom!)
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To: wolf78

Just another Hun in the sun.


6 posted on 04/01/2008 3:23:11 PM PDT by JCG
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7 posted on 04/01/2008 3:26:06 PM PDT by indcons (A lie repeated 100 times becomes the truth - ChiCom pedophile Chairman Mao)
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I once read a reference to the bio released during WWI, and the Germany censors let slip a passage that for all practical purposes, described the sexual release von Richthofen said he got from downing planes.


8 posted on 04/01/2008 3:27:27 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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I remember reading about Herr Hartmann,352 confirmed kills and he got started half way into the war.A fantastic fighter pilot but only a fair shot,he said he always wanted to get close enough that it was impossible to miss.


9 posted on 04/01/2008 3:30:58 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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http://www.redbaron-themovie.com/index_en.html
10 posted on 04/01/2008 3:33:37 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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I must admit, I still don’t understand why America decided to get involved in WWI. The Germans weren’t all that bad in that war—and had they won, surely Hitler would have never risen to power.


11 posted on 04/01/2008 3:34:18 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Shalom!)
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I don’t know how much of the legend of the Red Baron is true and how much is... uh... enhanced, but that’s probably true of most great historical figures. It’s basically true even if certain parts are a bit more polished than the reality.

There’s certainly nothing wrong with telling the story, and from a German viewpoint. Hitler may have been a sadistic murdering madman, but he had some real honest heroes working for him. Along with the ones that were just as cruel as he was.

Just as there’s nothing wrong with admiring Rommel for his role and place in history. Certainly a great general and tactical mind. He was merely playing for the wrong team.


12 posted on 04/01/2008 3:36:33 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: AnalogReigns

That is a very good point.


13 posted on 04/01/2008 3:37:51 PM PDT by reg45
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To: wolf78
If it is half as good as "Das Boot", I can't wait to see it.

In the last few years I've become very interested in foreign films on the wars, just to see it from a different perspective.

14 posted on 04/01/2008 3:38:42 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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15 posted on 04/01/2008 3:38:52 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Calvin Locke
..the sexual release von Richthofen said he got from downing planes.

Jeez, talk about ruining the expectations of the film.

16 posted on 04/01/2008 3:40:26 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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I wonder who they credit with his kill? It seems to me they never really proved one way or another who’s bullet was responsible for killing the red barron.


17 posted on 04/01/2008 3:41:01 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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18 posted on 04/01/2008 3:45:26 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
I'm sure things were brutal. However I recall reading Eddie Rickenbacker's Flying Circus as a teenager, and certain odd acts of chivalry occasionally did occur in that war.

Flying, after all, was barely a 10 year old invention, and the planes little more than powered kites...flying at speeds of an ultra-light today.

There's an air show every weekend from May to October in Bealton, Va., about 1 hour outside of DC. All biplanes. I've been to lots of air shows, but this one is my favorite, as the planes are SO SLOW (and close) you can see them do all their maneuvers in detail. It's hard to imagine fighting from such things.

19 posted on 04/01/2008 3:52:57 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Shalom!)
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There’s certainly nothing wrong with telling the story, and from a German viewpoint. Hitler may have been a sadistic murdering madman, but he had some real honest heroes working for him. Along with the ones that were just as cruel as he was.

Inasmuch as Manfred Von Richtofen fought, and died, in WWI, when the late, and largely unlamented Herr Hitler was a mere corporal, it's difficult to say That Rittmeister Von Richtofen worked for the aforementioned Hitler goon. One of Von Richtofen's compatriots, however, did end up working for Hitler, and that was Hermann Goering...

the infowarrior

20 posted on 04/01/2008 3:55:14 PM PDT by infowarrior
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