Monday: Meridian, MS
McCain's ancestry
Tuesday: Arlington, VA
McCain's youth
Wednesday: Annapolis, MD and Pensacola, FL
The Naval Academy and training
Thursday: Jacksonville, FL
Before and after Vietnam
Friday: Prescott, AZ
Home
He has become a crazed globalist, much like the man he wishes to replace. He now appears to have much in common with the three Supreme Court justices who would like to apply the law as written by a world court that tramples our Constitution.
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says it all... and especially of late.
I don’t get this strategy. McCain is not an unknown quantity. Is there anyone in America (with IQ over 75) who doesn’t know McCain? Who is not familiar with what Hildabeast referred to as “Legendary Background”?
What does this accomplish besides portraying himself as someone who is ONLY running on his GREAT Life Story?.
Problems out there are REAL and if the battle was for POSITIVES in the Polls, or respect of Americans, then this kind of tour makes sense. However, for someone who was already STUPID enough to make foolish comments indicating he is is not very well versed in Economics or the unpopular War has to kept going, he is focusing on the wrong thing.
This makes him look like one trick pony - I was Prisoner of War and I am a great Warrior - so vote for me. That didn’t work for Bob Dole and is surely not going to work now when there is REAL PAIN out there.
He needs to be addressing ENERGY and ECONOMY just as much as WOT.
Where is the PLAN to solve these problems? Where are the slogans that ordinary people could relate to in regards to those issues? Hildabeast has NOTHING but she keeps harping on Solutions, making it appear she has solutions.
McCain should be focusing on making his PLAN for solving ENERGY and ECONOMIC downslide POPULAR - Not his Biography.
George McGovern gave great service to America, too. Now tell me about your policies.
For some reason this reminded me of the scene in Forrest Gump where Lt. Dan has had his legs blown off and is ready to die before Gump saves him. We find out that Lt. Dan’s “destiny” is to die on the battlefield as so many of his ancestors had. Then they show Lt. Dan’s ancestors getting shot and falling dead in war after war.
Didn't this guy lose 3 planes in non-combat situations?!?
Thanks for posting. I’ve never been a McCain supporter, and I’ve never looked very far into his background. I knew his family was from Missippi, but I did not pursue any further knowledge about him. I find him to be a fascinating character. I didn’t think I would ever vote for him, but I will in November.
Why does this thread keep showing up as a new thread posted by the same person.
Is it Norman and his mother doing this?
McCain for President. He will be a great President.
is THAT his foreign policy speech?
On the contrary, if you look at the threads here posted about Lindsey Graham, you'll find he was beloved on this forum and hailed a great conservative leader for his leadership during the Clinton impeachment. There was no reason of him being a "maverick RINO" PRIOR to the Gang of 14. It was THIS specific piece of legislation that caused freepers to call his removal from office and ever since then, they've been going over his record with a fine tooth comb to "prove" what a RINO he is. "Gang of 14" was t They were overjoyed when he voted with McCain on the amnesty bill because they had unsucessfully tried for monthes after Gang of 14 to "prove" Graham was a McCain clone, only to see Graham vote AGAINST McCain on key conservative issues -- McCain opposed drilling ANWR, Graham favored it. McCain opposed tax cuts, Graham favored them. McCain opposed the federal marriage amendment, Graham backed it, etc.
As it is, Graham has a 91% lifetime conservative rating, which is pretty darn conservative for a 'RINO traitor". Clearly he was wrong for getting aboard McCain's bandwagon on amnesty, but that no more makes him a RINO than Tom McClintock is a RINO for kissing Arnie's butt in 2006. We're definitely talking about freepers going on a fishing expidition here because they're mad about a single bill.
>> Based on FR polls, it appears there are about 3,000 active freepers here. What percent of those posters would you say took this position? <<
Based on the number of freepers who posted on the Gang of 14 threads? I'd say about 60-70% called for his head on a platter at the time, based on that single piece of legislation. Now as to what percentage of freepers actually posted on those threads, maybe 20% of this forum, but certainly many others who didn't post on those threads expressed the same lynch mob sentiments. Again, this was BEFORE the amnesty thing and otherwise they had NO complaints about his record. Rather than admit that Gang of 14 turned out to be not too bad, they've been on a quest ever since then to loudly post every single instance where Graham is "wrong" to prove he's a RINO. I could just as easily "prove" Ronald Reagan is a RINO if I cherry picked his record and loudly attacked the 10% of the times he was wrong as being representative of his career.
>> Let’s take a look at the gang(R):
• John McCain, Arizona
• Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
• John Warner, Virginia
• Olympia Snowe, Maine
• Susan Collins, Maine
• Mike DeWine, Ohio (lost re-election in 2006)
• Lincoln Chafee, Rhode Island (lost re-election in 2006) << <
Yes, most of those are RINOs. All the more reason why the three in the gang who I would argue are not RINOs (McCain, Graham, and DeWine) get tarred by freepers as RINOs even though they agree with conservatives on all major issues besides a tiny handful of positions where they took the wrong side. Let's take a look at the (R) Senators who acquitted Slick Willie of perjury (when anyone with half a brain knows Clinton lied under oath):
Chafee, Rhode Island
Susan Collins, Maine
Slade Gorton, Washington
Jim Jeffords, Vermont
Richard Shelby, Alabama
Olympia Snowe, Maine
Arlen Specter, Pennsylvania
Ted Stevens, Alaska
Fred Thompson, Tennessee
John Warner, Virginia
Now, most of the people on that list are indeed RINOs. But just because Fred Thompson, Richard Shelby, and Slade Gordon were on the wrong side of a major issue, it doesn't make them RINOs, except to the single issue purists. Now I could just as easily do a characther assisination of Fred Thompson as they did to Lindsey Graham, by cherry picking every time Fred was "wrong" since the Gang of 14 vote to "prove" what an awful RINO he was. After all, didn't Fred support McCain-Feingold? Didn't he vote for free trade with Red China? Didn't he vote to lift higher fines on illegal aliens? Didn't he oppose the federal marriage amendment? Didn't he say the human life amendment was a bad idea?
It would be easy to tar someone as a RINO because you're mad at them over one vote, but to call Fred a "RINO" in the mold of Arnold or Rudy is wrong. There are people on that list who have a lifetime voting record like Arnold or Rudy (Lincoln Chafee, Jim Jeffords being prime examples), but to call someone who agrees with you 90% of the time a RINO because you're angry about that piece of legislation is wrong.
>> What makes you think people opposed them on this “single” issue? You mentioned DeWine, specifically, in your prior post. Wasn’t he opposed to the Federal Marriage Amendment and drilling in ANWR and a proponent of gun control and minimum wage hikes? Perhaps people had good reason for opposing him, other than the gang-of-14. <<
Because, if you revisit the threads about DeWine, they didn't attack him for anything related to guns, minimum wage, etc., etc., they mentioned the "gang of 14" thing over and over again as if that little judicial compromise was the most important issue on the planet. Which would seem to imply to me they decided to remove him from office based on THAT vote alone, rather than conclude he was unacceptable after he voted for a bunch of other stuff first. Compare that to an Arnold thread where his backers endlessly accuse anti-Arnold people of being pro-life purists, but you see dozens of issues that Arnie gets attacked for.
As for DeWine's voting record, he was 100% pro-life and actually was co-sponcered the federal marriage amendment. He opposed the state marriage amendment because he actually thought it was too liberal for his tastes and imposed undue government powers to restriction traditional heterosexual marriage. He likewise had a conservative voting record of at least 80% Again, if people were upset about his other votes, they would have posted a thread about it. Clearly the most important issue for them was DeWine denying the Senate the nuclear option. My former Senator also had impeccible pro-life and pro-family credentials, and a 90% conservative voting record, but he simularly ALSO had a weak record on guns, opposed ANWR drilling, supported the minimum wage, and supported McCain-Feingold. Why wasn't there a "throw treasous Senator Fitzgerald out of office" thread vanities like there were with Graham and DeWine? Oh yeah, Fitzgerald wasn't part of the Gang of 14. Hmmm.
>> As to Thune, I’ve seen a handful of people show support for him, but in no way a large number of freepers. Personally, I’ve never trusted the guy after looking at his donor list when he first got elected. He had lots of the wrong kind of supporters (California “new majority” types) <<
I can't say I've seen a huge outpouring of love for him on FR either, but whenever his name is posted on FR as "potential running mates" for McCain, he gets nice praise about what a handsome, likeable, conservative Senator he is and would make a fine Vice President. No one ever seems to call him to task for lynching Bolton, which is my opinion is far worse than the Gang of 14 thing they've been screaming about incessantly for two years.