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1 posted on 03/29/2008 3:33:07 AM PDT by stickman20089
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“...30 football pitches...”

???

Football fields?

(Love those quaint Brits!)


2 posted on 03/29/2008 3:41:44 AM PDT by do not press 2 for spanish
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I’m glad more people are coming around on this. Now maybe the price of beef will come back down.


3 posted on 03/29/2008 3:43:27 AM PDT by TexasMatty (Sriracha, It's not just for breakfast!)
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Foodstuffs can make fuel.
By using corn as fuel it has raised prices making farming profitable.
Besides it makes foodstuffs more expensive for other countries that don’t raise enough for their own populations.
The Mid-East makes us dig deep for their fuel, let’s make them dig deep for our foodstuffs.
Use food as a weapon.
I can mostly get by without fuel but I gotta eat.


4 posted on 03/29/2008 3:45:56 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: stickman20089
These folks bashing on BioFuels based on the current moment are just stupid. I would claim this was a Saudi conspiracy except alot of folks who I respect are spouting the same stuff.

We are in the process of transitioning to a significant presence of ethanol based fuels in our society but we are also faced with a Chicken and Egg issue. The Government is pushing through this barrier via a number of programs.

Ultimately the step up to E85 as a significant player in the auto fuel market will bring down the cost of Oil and Ethanol both. And, in the pipeline are newer technologies that will replace grain based ethanol in the next 5 years.

5 posted on 03/29/2008 3:47:35 AM PDT by dalight
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To: stickman20089

Amen!


6 posted on 03/29/2008 3:54:05 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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I disagree strongly with this article. While ethanol is a dead end, biodiesel is not, and there’s no need to throw the baby out with the bath water when a number of technological breakthroughs are being made that make production of biodiesel and even ethanol to a certain extent more practical and less harmful to the food supply for this country.


8 posted on 03/29/2008 4:15:51 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Red Badger

This article might be of interest to you.


9 posted on 03/29/2008 4:16:43 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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Only Texans are against ALL alternatives to oil.

We currently (2008 Farm Bill )pay farmers NOT to plant 38m acres.

Man kind has always used food for transportation fuel.

A 1,000 pound horse consumes 3% of its body weight daily.


12 posted on 03/29/2008 4:28:41 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Duncan Hunter- The very Govts unwilling to support us in the WOT got the Fuel Tanker Deal)
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It really is time to stop this nonsense.


What would Adam Smith said about this?


13 posted on 03/29/2008 4:31:15 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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C’mon, someone, anyone make the case FOR ethanol.

Tell us why we should sit quietly by while oil is forsaken and the American economy is ruined by this alternate fuel nonsense AND the great man-made climate change hoax.

I ask the ethanol defenders to be upfront on whether they are farmers or in the ethanol industry in any capacity. There are those here involved in the building of ethanol plants that cannot be swayed by any logical discussion.

I also ask any man-made climate change defenders to be upfront on whether they are getting federal grant money to study the effects of man-made climate change from the annual $5 billion budgeted for the study. Or if they are government school educators, or anti-capitalists, communists, socialists or just simply anti-American.


19 posted on 03/29/2008 4:52:59 AM PDT by reaganator
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The USDA was notified yesterday that US exporters are set to ship nearly 400,000 metric tons of corn to foreign buyers, so obviously no one is worried about the price of our food here.

Argentina is suspending the export of their wheat, and other countries are banning grain exports, but the good old USA is shipping our grain out even when the crop forecasts for this year point to shortages here. Free traitors don’t care about your food bill.


22 posted on 03/29/2008 5:24:45 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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only lib/dem tree huggers prefer to put foodstuffs into energy supplies instead of drilling for the massive oil reserves lying under the US!!!!

eventually the US will be the consumate turd world nation...not enough fuel...not enough food....but plenty of turd world illegal invaders that are in the process of destroying the social/economic fabric of the US in the name of diversity, etc.!!!!


25 posted on 03/29/2008 5:33:16 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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I would like to know these scientists agendas. Are they simply environmentalists who want to shut down all human activity?


32 posted on 03/29/2008 5:50:37 AM PDT by Brilliant
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"...It really is time to stop this nonsense."

Sure, if this whole thing really is about alternatives to oil...which it's not.

40 posted on 03/29/2008 6:24:39 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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Just wait til there’s a DROUGHT!!! Idiocy!


44 posted on 03/29/2008 7:08:09 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Just wait til there’s a DROUGHT!!! Idiocy!


45 posted on 03/29/2008 7:08:10 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Eat Food
Don't Burn It
52 posted on 03/29/2008 9:20:53 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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These amazing scientists, they have time to do their science and time oeft over to jump into politics.


53 posted on 03/29/2008 9:24:36 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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A texan here to give you the “comprehensive oil independency intiative.”

1. Drill the East and West coasts for oil.
2. Drill the East and west coasts for Methane Hydrate.
3. Drill the Gulf for oil.
4. Drill Alaska for oil.
5. Drill the Gulf for Methane Hydrate.
6. Drill The Antarctic for oil.
7. Begin processing the oil shale.
8. Expand available farm land for diesel and ethanol. Say, 140 million acres or so can be put into production.

At this point, Saudi Arabia is a small player and we can afford to tell them to take a hike.


55 posted on 03/29/2008 10:21:15 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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Annoying “politically correct” things, that may never go away because they generate government/corporate revenue and increase political power:

Biofuels
Swirly bulbs
Plastic, or was it paper
Global Climate Change
Road toll’s
Taxes (insert type)
Plastic auto bumbers (oxymoron)
Fees (unregulated taxes)
Seat belt alarms
“Press 1 For English”
Ms
Right Turn Only
“Gas only” fireplaces
Ted Kennedy


60 posted on 04/10/2008 7:15:55 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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